adam_r Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Rich... dont worry too much bout the brake pedal. mine does the same. i had the fluid changed less than a year ago and it didnt change a thing. Press the brake pedal hard, it becomes very resistive about 3/4 way down.. keep pushing and the pedal goes slightly soft and will depress to the floor. let go and repeat the above.. same again... i have done some hard braking (private road) from 80 mph and the car stopped perfectly with my foot stuck to the pedal ensuring the ABS did all the work... tried again with not letting the ABS kick in and again it felt normal. so i dont worry too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMARTLY Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I wouldn't feel safe if my pedal went to the floor. Last time it happened to me I was reversing out of my garage in my Lexus and no brakes. Lexus GB sent the master cylinder to Japan for tests but never told what if anything was wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I tried again this morning on the way to work and the pedal didn't go to the floor this time, although it wasn't far away. I think it's what Adam said and after I had stopped the pedal then went to the floor cos I kept it down. Being an auto my foot is on the brake more now and I don't release it after stopping. The brakes have been like this since I got the car and from what I've read on the forum some other owners say the same about them, there is quite abit of pedal travel before anything actually happens and they're not particularly sharp. It must be the way they are, there isn't anything wrong with the actual braking but changing from the Civic to the Accord highlights just how different they are. When I press the Civic brakes the first couple of times it's like I'm doing an emergency stop! I think I need someone to test them for me and see what they think and whether they're ok or not. The MOT was done a week or 2 before I bought the car and they passed with no advisories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 It seems this car likes drinking oil and I don't even work it that hard, never redline it! I hadn't checked it for a while but I did last night when I got home from work and it was just below minimum! I topped it up abit and checked this morning, it was just above minimum so needs abit more added. I think I will have to check it more often now. I'm going to strip the front brakes next week after our long weekend away and see what they're like. They stop the car fine but I think changing the pads (and possibly the discs) to another brand will make them abit sharper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Are they known for drinking oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 The 2.4 is yes but I was hoping it applied more to the manual type s and using vtec. It's been a while since I did the oil change so it's not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 When we got back from Norfolk, which is a 150 mile drive I noticed that funny smell again. Found it on one of the rear brakes so I stripped them down yesterday. Although the slider pins weren't seized they were a little stiff even though I regreased them 6 months ago. The brake pads are fine and were free in the carriers. Both pistons pushed in and out ok although there is a little corrosion on them. The dust cover on the side that had the smell has a pin hole in it as well. I'll keep an eye on them but I hope I don't need a new caliper!! While I had everything out I thought I'd check the fronts. I wasn't sure what head the bolt had so tried some star shaped ones first. One fitted perfectly but after removing I realised it's actually a hex head! I think someone must have made that mistake before cos the bit fitted perfectly. I tried a 6mm hex bit and it was too small so tried the 8 and that was to big. Guess what, my toolset doesn't have a 7 so need to buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Typical..... The smell is it like a slipping clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I've never experienced a slipping clutch so wouldn't know. It wasn't a burning smell like I had on the Corolla just a hot smell. I got the bit from Halfords, £4 with lifetime guarantee so will check the fronts next week now. On our break the car did 28mpg. 30 miles was going to work (5 miles each way), 150 miles to Norfolk mainly motorway and dual carriageways and the car fully loaded, then 80 miles of just driving around locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Did one rear wheel feel hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Yes the side that the smell was coming from. But it wasn't burning red hot just alot warmer than the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Well something must be binding then..... Do the pads look powdered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Pads look fine, I think it was the slider pins, I've regreased them, again. It's a common problem for them to bind on the tourer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Sometimes you need to file the powder coating off the pads where they rest against the carrier, often the coating is to thick meaning the calliper traps the pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 I did all of that the first time I greased them cos they were seized in the carrier. I did file abit more off this time just to be sure they weren't catching anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Any signs of rust on the pads wings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Nope no rust, I only did it 6 months ago and copper greased them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Oh well i think you have done all you can do without further evidence of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 I think it might be the slider pins, they could need replacing. I am using red rubber grease on them and clean all the old stuff off first so if it's not the piston (which is moving freely) I can't think what else it can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Does the calliper it's self have slider pins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 No the pins go into the carrier and the bolts hold the caliper to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 So the calliper doesn't float at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 How do you mean float? It looks like this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Left-Brake-Calliper-for-Honda-Accord-Tourer-2003-2007-/301254943167 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I had another look at the rear brake today and I noticed the side with the smell was dragging ever so slightly more than the other wheel. The tourer uses the same setup as the Corolla and uses the disc as a drum for the handbrake. I took the disc off and the inside smelt abit burnt so that's the culprit. Backed it off 2 notches and took it for a drive. I was doing alot of heavy braking and when I got home they were very hot but no burning smell so I will see what it's like with normal use. I had a look at the front brakes now I have a 7mm hex socket and everything came apart fine but they look abit dodgy to me. The inside face of both discs has a ring of rust, which the pad sits over and they have a groove on them. The outside face looks fine. Using a tape measure the thickness is 23mm but they have a slight lip so probably abit less. Not accurate I know but the minimum thickness should be 23mm and the maximum 25mm. So I'm going replace the brakes and hopefully that will sort the soft pedal/feel out although they do work ok and stop the car well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I've just checked the MOT history and at 68k miles it got an advisory for low brake pads. A year later at 74k miles it failed on the front pads, which is when they replaced them. There is nothing in the history about the discs ever being replaced so they've done 102k miles?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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