Tony Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 It's got to be the hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Most likely but replacing the lot will give me peace of mind as well, I like working on the cars but doing the same job over and over gets abit mundane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Well those pistons have been in and out more times than a tarts rabbit so i feel the hose is backing up pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Well those pistons have been in and out more times than a tarts rabbit so i feel the hose is backing up pressure. pmsl, nice choice of wording! When I get the old hoses off I'll cut them open to see what they're like inside. What signs do they show of being worn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yes i could have worded that better ......Check to see if the internal rubber has perished/ cracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 So what do you think is happening, the hoses are expanding internally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 No blocked...... High pressure can push past but the relaxed pressure can't and that's what causes the bind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 That makes sense, so what could be blocking it, just from where it's perished inside or something else? So pushing the piston back in temporarily unblocks it. As I said the fluid was flushed last year so hopefully there's nothing nasty in there causing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 It's just age but also crimping the hose can brake it down as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Well these are definitely the original calipers and I have no reason to suspect they've been crimped in the past so I'll put it down to age, they are a common issue on the tourer anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Not really... A lot of cars have issues with the rear callipers simply because the actual movement and pressure is so small, road debris and corrosion of the carrier compound the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I've had problems with the Corolla, Civic and now the Accord so I've had my fair share - time for someone else to have the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Don't you just love internet shopping, got everything I need without having to drive to the motorfactors. Brakes Int sent a new slider pin kit on Tuesday, which came yesterday so that's a thumbs up for them sorting it quickly. I got the Visibleed and some tubing, both are a snug fit on the nipples. I've just sprayed the bolts again, having a coffee and I'll start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 This should be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2IM Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Good luck mate. Its bloomin freezing out there today to be working on a car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 All done, that's both sides, just need to bleed them now. Everything came undone ok, the only thing that gave me trouble were the hose bracket bolts. Glad I got that flare nut spanner, made it easier to undo. I'll run the old pads for a while to make sure they've stopped binding then replace. Yep it's freezing out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2IM Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Those discs lot a bit mullered. Why are they red?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 From where they were binding, everything heats up but the rusty edges stay red. Usually it will go after a while, the discs are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMARTLY Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 IIRC you bleed the calliper the furthest from the master cylinder, then the next furthest etc. Think you need to bleed all four as well as with opposite wheels on the same circuit to retain braking of one part leaks then fronts need doing after backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 On Honda's it's the NSF, OSF, OSR then the NSR, you work in a clockwise direction. That's in the official Honda workshop manual and they also suggest using the 2 man method. I think that is common now for cars with ABS, older ones start from the rear as you've said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMARTLY Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Well it's a long time since I've done it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Well done with the fitting, lets hope the bleed goes just as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Well it's a long time since I've done it The FIL said the same when he came to help me, start from the furthest away from the master cylinder but I think this mainly applies to old cars now without ABS or if they don't have a separate bleed nipple. Maybe it's to stop air getting back into the ABS system by starting at the front instead. Well done with the fitting, lets hope the bleed goes just as well. Was fairly straight forward TBH. I have tried changing hoses before with just a normal spanner but wasn't having much luck, I didn't realise I needed a flared one so thanks for the heads up on that After the second bleed I'm alot happier with the pedal feel now. We're away next week so I'll probably get some new pads when we're back and maybe try another bleed, any other bubbles might have dislodged by then. Also I'm thinking of replacing the front flexi hoses but I've had no issues with the fronts so maybe I should just leave them. It was nice arriving at work with cold rear brakes again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 How did the old hoses look when you got them off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I started cutting along them with a stanley knife but they are bloody tough so gave up! I might try the hack saw on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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