parthiban Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I use a cteck on my cars , perfect for weekend toys My first time using a tender but happy with it so far, should hopefully keep the battery in prime condition. What's cteck It's a battery tender, keeps the battery in it's optimum condition. It's not just a charger, it constantly assesses the battery and alters how much current it applies accordingly. This is the one I installed: http://www.ctek.com/gb/en/chargers/MXS%205.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Looks like a good bit of equipment that, I guess you installed it as the car isn't driven much? Glad you finally got your top off!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Never heard of them before but it sure reads like a great idea to have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Yes it just to make sure the battery is kept in good condition - apparently Ferraris are quite sensitive to voltage fluctuations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 What as in the battery being sensitive or the electrics in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 What as in the battery being sensitive or the electrics in general. The electrics - so it's good to keep the battery in good condition so it always offers the right amount of power. Jump starting a Ferrari is seemingly a very serious no-no so that is never an option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Really..... I didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Really..... I didn't know that. Jump starting it in the traditional way can actually blow the ECUs and other electrics so not good obviously. It's not recommended, but in an absolute emergency the only place you can sort of safely jump it from are the terminals behind the seats (where I've wired the tender in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Knowledge is certainly power when it comes to things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Knowledge is certainly power when it comes to things like that. Yep, it would be easy enough for a recovery guy to just hook up to the battery - so this is one it's good to be clued up about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I can't imagine the cost of getting it wrong!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I can't imagine the cost of getting it wrong!!!! The common problems are it blows the ECUs and the instrument cluster - both of which are serious ££££ as you can imagine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 So if you get a flat battery you either need to remove it, take it home to charge and then bring it back to the car or get a tow truck? What causes the ECU to blow then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 So if you get a flat battery you either need to remove it, take it home to charge and then bring it back to the car or get a tow truck? What causes the ECU to blow then? You can jump it off the remote terminals behind the seat in an emergency, but even then it isn't recommended. It's jumping from the battery terminals that is a definite no-no. I think ideally it is recommended to hook up another battery (or power unit) for a short while to hopefully give the battery enough power to start the engine off its own power. Not really sure what the problem is, I'd assume it's not very good wiring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMARTLY Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Maybe a poor voltage regulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Maybe a poor voltage regulator? Possibly, the circuit on which the battery sits must not have any protection built in. Although if jumping from another car/power pack, the actual voltage/current being provided should be similar to that being offered by the actual battery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 What i don't get is a jump start is from another battery, not the national grid so why does the same voltage blow the ECU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 What i don't get is a jump start is from another battery, not the national grid so why does the same voltage blow the ECU? Voicey explains it better here than I ever could: http://aldousvoice.com/2012/08/21/jump-starting-a-flat-battery/ It's the drop in voltage when disconnecting the other battery rather than the actual jump start that is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Ok i understand now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Electrics is not something the Italians have ever been that good with but its not unique to the Fezza many cars now have dedicated points to connect jump leads very rarely do you stick them straight onto the battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Electrics is not something the Italians have ever been that good with but its not unique to the Fezza many cars now have dedicated points to connect jump leads very rarely do you stick them straight onto the battery Is that just cars like this with batteries in unusual locations or even more mainstream cars with batteries in the engine compartment? It's weird as most of the electrical components in the Ferrari seem to be Bosch, but even then don't seem great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Just be pleased it's not an Alfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Just be pleased it's not an Alfa All owned by the same people aren't they? I know the F1 pump in the 360 is the same as the one for the Alfa Selespeed (which makes a cheaper replacement if required!) To be fair from everything I've read Ferraris are quite reliable. There are a few niggles here and there as with any car, but if you respect it and do all the right maintenance, it shouldn't cause any major issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Electrics is not something the Italians have ever been that good with but its not unique to the Fezza many cars now have dedicated points to connect jump leads very rarely do you stick them straight onto the battery Is that just cars like this with batteries in unusual locations or even more mainstream cars with batteries in the engine compartment? It's weird as most of the electrical components in the Ferrari seem to be Bosch, but even then don't seem great. My Skodas have jump leads points , in fact my old Skylines did as well , not sure about the zed so yes many mainstream cars Its a standing joke about Italian electrics really , the bikes are just as bad , no idea why , at least they do some things good unlike British stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 There is a further joke with Ferraris that the price you pay is for the engine, everything else comes for free (and therefore don't expect much from it)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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