juzzyp Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I haven't been to the WIM forum in ages, it's good to be back. I used to own a highly modified MK2 MX5 and RX7, Tony and the WIM guys worked on the alignment and fitted tyres on both of them. The 5 started to rust and the large fuel tank on the 7 was hitting the wallet - so I sold up and bought a MK5 Golf GTi. It's a great little car, I'm leaving it stock but the options for tyres worse than the 5 and because there's SO many owners, so I've two questions: 1) What is a good tyre for a MK5 Golf GTi? -- I've heard good things about Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, the Michelin Pilot Sport 3's and Goodyear Eagle Asymetric's are good, but looking for an all rounder, not just a summer tyre. 2) Some owners are saying, move the rear tyres to the front and replace the backs? .... but the fronts drive the car, so why do the backs, I know there's an argument for both. The tyres depth are getting low, the gang at BB/WIM won't be happy when they see them, so any advice would be appreciated as they'll need replacing very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Right... Is it a gti petrol or diesel? The sessantas are great, i used then on my accord and they where the best tyres i had used on a car that size. Mps3's are soft.. Very good grip.. But wear out rather fast (friend runs these on his audi tt quatro sport) When replacing tyres, fit new ones to the rear and move the rears forward. This is due to the fact an understeer is easier to correct that oversteer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 All rounder = Eagle F1 , best tyres on less than ideal roads imo. As for front to rear I never worry either way but always take it easy for a few hundred miles after fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Welcome back The Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta get the best feedback and then the Goodyear Eagle Asymetric's but don't expect 20k out of them because mileage is sacrificial on these types of tyres. As for moving them i say no and always have done.... Two reasons, one it was a ploy by the tyre shops to gain extra wheel balance before the rears go on the front and two modern tyres adopt a profile according to weight distribution so moving them means they need to adopt another profile and this can make them distort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I had problems with the Eagle F1s (asymmetric 1 though, not the newer 2 version) in cold weather, they became very questionable below about 7C. Replaced with Michelin PS3s and a lot happier with these. Don't do massive miles so wear isn't a major concern, but having said that they aren't wearing too badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I found the sessantas incredible for wet traction / water displacement and they where ok ish in the snow.. I would say the sessantas where better in the snow than super budget tyres in the wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I have the Vreds on the front of my Accord and really like them. I have winter tyres as well so won't know what they're like in the bad weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 No road going tyre is good in snow, all season have a chance but winters are the only way really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juzzyp Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thanks to everyone who contributed to the thread, great to see the forum community so active and helpful. I popped into the boys at Blackboots, lightining fast service, decided to stay out of the way as they were very busy, the phone was going crazy and they had loads of customers (that's a good thing) I went with the Vreds, the guy at BB runs them on his powerful car and another four were going on another Golf, the guys here also know their stuff, compared to other tyre centres I'd phoned who didn't even know the brand. Initial Feedback: The steering is a lot lighter, nice feel, lots of grip, I don't who fitted the last tyres but they did a bad job because I had vibrations, stiff handling and struggled to park the car at times, now I've got less road noise and the car responds better - imagine what it will be like when I get the geometry done next year. Top work by the boys at BB/WIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Top stuff That's why I went for them, Jay runs them on his Audi RS and if he rates them they'll be fine for my Accord. I've never been a fan of asymmetrical tyres cos of the tramlining, which I did get for a while but it seems to have settled down and I hardly notice any now apart from on some roads with lots of camber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Nice work boys..... Sorry to have missed you juzzy i would have been good to catch up.... Remember to bed those tyres in before you test them to the full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juzzyp Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 It's fine Tony, you have the empire of WIM and BB to look after. Jay looked after my car and I watched your mahoosive TV in the reception, plus I had 4G reception in the workshops to keep me occupied on the phone. Usual bed in rules apply, I'm not going to go too mad, driving characteristics of the car have also changed to I'll go easy, see you sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 As said you won't get 1000's of miles out of those tyres although they are way better than some but what you do get is superb grip/ harmonics and feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Once they are bedded in.. Wait until it rains really heavily and take the car out...you will be amazed at the wet performance / water shifting capabilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 For those not familiar with the make of tyre here they are As you can see it's a very aggressive asymmetrical tyre that's opened many a topic in forums regarding the direction of the tread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Vredestien did their research and the tyres are amazing. They really do work well. I sound like i work for them!. I was truely impressed when i hit a huge amount of standing water on the A3 during a heavy downpour.. Honestly i expected the car to go lite and aquaplane but the tyres dug in and did their job. Apart from a deceleration, they did not leave the tarmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 As said Jay at BB runs them on his Audi and he has experienced choice of every tyre out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Do they work reasonably well when cold as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Within reason for a non-winter tyres. They don't have a temperature cut off like Toyo R888 or Hankook but like any all season tyre snow and ice is a careful playground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Within reason for a non-winter tyres. They don't have a temperature cut off like Toyo R888 or Hankook but like any all season tyre snow and ice is a careful playground. As long as they're reasonable might give these a go next, the Eagle F1s just dropped off so badly below about 7C that they become a bit questionable. Having said that I've really liked the Michelin PS3s, as well as great grip they're very quiet and comfortable which I also appreciate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4UL T Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I really liked these tyres when I had them on the front of the ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Out of interest what sort of mileage did you get out of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4UL T Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Can't remember the exact mileage when they were fitted. But I reckon about 20k? I do less than 5k a year in it now, so that's rough 4-5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 That's pretty good mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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