Rich Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 You will need to click the image to see the larger version and sorry if the text is too small the batteries need charging for the normal camera. If you want hi-res ones I will take some tomorrow. Now although I don't own a Jap motor I always buy the older issues when I'm down the market and this article caught my eye. A Honda Jazz which has 15 degrees of negative rear camber!! The owner said he gets 'really fast' tyre wear, it handles brilliantly and looks good! Now to me I think it looks crap and being on 19's that's gonna cost alot in tyres! But is there any truth in it handling better like this? What do you guys think of it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorps Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 How does that look good? He must own a tyre shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 No one else got an opinion on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I read that feture surly that dont handle that well supprised he hasnt got a nikin off mr plod too.... look's awsome from a side veiw imo When i first see it i thought it were a merc a class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 It's pants.......The car will understeer big time. Also i would expect the bearings to go in no time and there's an issue with the studs braking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazz33 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Personaly i think it looks naff.. was that in this months Banzai magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacRS200 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Crap, that's about all I can say really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 It's pants.......The car will understeer big time. Also i would expect the bearings to go in no time and there's an issue with the studs braking. I wonder who recommended having the camber like that in the first place Personaly i think it looks naff.. was that in this months Banzai magazine. December 2007, got it down Bovvy market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo50 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 this is an old japanese style, called Oni-kyan (鬼キャン) Oni-kyan literally means 'Demon Camber'. It's been used for many types of car modification whether it be a drift car, a WSìüµü ('Kaidou' or Highway Racer), or even RC cars but these days it's mostly found on VIP cars or modified vans. For a while Demon Camber was popular with drifters but has since fallen out of favor as the negatives like increased wear and loss of overall stability outweighed the positives of having more front end grip... so Oni-kyan has become a visual style more than anything. The wildest Oni-kyan fitments are usually in the realm of VIP cars, often they run 12 inch or wider alloy wheels that necessitate a lot of negative camber in order to fit these wider wheels underneath the standard wheel arches while keeping the car as low as possible. To get the best effect the offset of the wheels are carefully chosen to get the top outer edge of the rim exactly in line with the body work with the bottom outer edge sticking way outside the body of the car, sometimes at angles of 10 or even 15 degrees! Depending on the owners budget, airbag or coil over suspension is used to get the car low while front and rear upper arms about 10mm or more shorter than standard are used to get Demon Camber angles. Front wheel drive vans (even Kei vans) with beam rear suspension use 'camber axels' to get up to 8 degrees negative camber at the rear. Needless to say excessive tire wear and increased wheel bearing stress make this type of tuning only for those who favor looks over drivability and low maintenance. here is some a little more extreme examples 8) and they are driving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Looks like they have been off a cliff ....... Seems like a lot of time and money for something that looks "wrong ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazz33 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 wat the ****.!!!!! looks like a sumo wrestler has sat inside them.. how can that be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 That's just mad, can't be good for the suspension parts surely!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 This thing is parked on the estate.... It's lower than ya Gran's nipples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Bet speed bumps are fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Bet speed bumps are fun! Speed bumps are in the grill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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