Tony Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Surely that's a fake and isn't attached to a car, where is the driveshaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 It's the drive flange ( no wheel ) and removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyelcomb Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I agree with Rich - that's not a recently used flange as there's long term rust on it. Also the wheel rim isn't one from whatever flange it's bolted to as the centre bore is way larger thank it should be (although that's not always a problem as I use larger bore rims on my MX5s). Definitely a fake / staged pic and wouldn't have been straight off the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Could the damaged area be the disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 The damaged area is what's left of the wheel. The bolt holes have been enlarged by the friction of the studs, and the centre bore of the wheel has enlarged accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think it is the disc.... Between stud four and five there's a small hole. This is used to insert a 13mm bolt to remove the disc from the flange because over the years the disc corrodes to the flange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 You can see the rounding of the dish of the wheel where it's been scraped by the wheel nuts. A brake disk wouldn't be profiled out like that. Does it honestly look thick enough to be a brake disc? Look at the damaged area round the studs and you can see the thickness of the material there, and I'd guess it's about 3mm or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Here's a similar wheel just about to get as bad as the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I would swear the top right hand part of the image is the disc?... about 20mm thick and rusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I can see the wheel and flange but I still don't believe that happened when the car was being used. Like Andy said there wouldn't be all that rust where the driveshaft goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I reckon it's been used on a trailer or something, and the driveshaft has been missing for some time. Farmers round our way come up with all sorts of ingenious uses for wheels, with or without the rest of the donor vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 But the studs are on a spline in the drive flange and you can see them though the disk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Okay, looking closer and thinking outside the box a little... Maybe someone put a wheel on a driveshaft without the brake disc fitted. The nuts fitted are blind and will have just bottomed out on the studs before the wheel was tight against the flange. Usually the brake disc thickness would mean they went tight before bottoming, but without the disc it left a wobbly wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 More likely a brake drum imo but im calling fake , or at least not what its purported to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 But why fake it?....Seems a lot of work for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyelcomb Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Okay, looking closer and thinking outside the box a little... Maybe someone put a wheel on a driveshaft without the brake disc fitted. The nuts fitted are blind and will have just bottomed out on the studs before the wheel was tight against the flange. Usually the brake disc thickness would mean they went tight before bottoming, but without the disc it left a wobbly wheel. Yep, that's my take on it too. Wheel nuts have bottomed out and not gripped the rim to the flange and its a cobbled up mess anyway without a driveshaft through the bearing because the bearing will wear massively without being held together by the driveshaft or at least a CV joint in there. Almost certainly a home-brewed trailer wheel affair. That's why there's no brake disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Agreed there's no caliper and there's never been one looking at the disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyelcomb Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 I still think you're not quite seeing it as I am Tony - there can't be a caliper as there is no disc in the photo. All there is is the wheel rim with chewed up holes and the actual hub flange - nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yeah there is definitely no disc there or it could be a drum like liner said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Suppose i need to admit defeat because a cast disc or drum wouldn't splay out as seen in the image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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