djwozza Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Show was never the aim, the car screams "boring as feck" & hopefully attracts as little unwanted attention as possible... A few minor things to finish along with the door builds and it will be complete. I have heard louder cars, but none have the clarity, the balance, the soundstage & imaging that this build has. For those who haven't had a listen that isn't an idle boast, as they guys from today will tell you, but it's cost a fortune in man hours & of course money over the years to reach this stage. Easy isn't a word to describe it, but I think the words focus & perseverance really do. I hope what I have said doesn't come across as smug, but it's really that good IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I'm off to pick up the speakers I won on eBay today, gotta beg the cash for some front door cards, then I can get the door builds underway. They will be my first, & I am buying the door cards so it doesn't effect the car until I am ready to fit them. I've never worked with fibreglass before, so not sure how my first attempts will go, but as you have seen from the modified fascia, fabrication is something I can usually do well. I could give them to a shop to do, but I wouldn't feel like they were "mine", plus I'm not learning anything if I let someone else do it. It might take 4x - 10x longer as I have no workshop or even a garage, but if I'm patient, I'm pretty sure I can do a decent job that will be stealthy & functional. If I didn't think I could do a decent job (eventually), then I would hand the job off to a specialist. I can see many fibreglass DIY plus custom door build videos on YouTube in my near future...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 The look on their faces in the car was a hoot ....... The deception is from the outside there's hardly any sound bleed but inside there's plenty of ears bleeding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I'm glad the results are living up to the hype, it's cost a fortune in man hours & just as much in cash building the system over the years, but with the results I have now, it really has been worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Without question..... I think the key to your install is the stealth, it's like looking at a fluffy little kitten until it smiles and shows it's tigers teeth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 My demo did overrun slightly (lol) but wow what an experience! I've never heard any audio in a car that sounds anything even remotely as it does in Wozza's car - it really is mindblowing. It obviously has sufficient power to blow out your eardrums if required but that totally was not the point, the genuine surprise is cranking the volume up and it remaining completely crystal clear. More surprising than anything was listening to songs I've heard so many times before but realising I've never actually properly "heard" them! Little accents in the background, or tuneful basslines which are totally lost without the sound system to build the complete sound image. It really was like hearing the music the way the artist/producer intended it which is amazing. Even more amazing was the fact the car internally looks like a bog standard Accord, which just makes all those crazy installs with custom builds look so unnecessary. Thanks Woz for taking the time to go through everything, and as with anything just putting high end components together isn't even half of it, you have to set them up right to get it all working so perfectly. And that's where you've completely nailed it, the results speak for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 My demo did overrun slightly (lol) but wow what an experience! I've never heard any audio in a car that sounds anything even remotely as it does in Wozza's car - it really is mindblowing. It obviously has sufficient power to blow out your eardrums if required but that totally was not the point, the genuine surprise is cranking the volume up and it remaining completely crystal clear. More surprising than anything was listening to songs I've heard so many times before but realising I've never actually properly "heard" them! Little accents in the background, or tuneful basslines which are totally lost without the sound system to build the complete sound image. It really was like hearing the music the way the artist/producer intended it which is amazing. Even more amazing was the fact the car internally looks like a bog standard Accord, which just makes all those crazy installs with custom builds look so unnecessary. Thanks Woz for taking the time to go through everything, and as with anything just putting high end components together isn't even half of it, you have to set them up right to get it all working so perfectly. And that's where you've completely nailed it, the results speak for themselves. Aw shucks cheers mate #Humbled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAHZ Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Agree with Parths comments,fitting the hardware is the easy bit, the configuration is the difficult bit and you have that spot on! The balance of the sound frequencies is astonishing regardless of the type of music that was played. The simplicity of the build is deceiving in regards to the time, effort and £££ spent! Simply stunning! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 So next Wednesday is pencilled in (weather permitting) to do the amplifier swap & rewire the amp rack. Still looking for s donor set of front door cards to butcher tho, but that will be for later, & I'm not certain on wether I am mounting the speakers into a door build, or onto the door & just using the re fabricated door cards as covers as is the current set up. Much head scratching ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Have you tried these people> http://www.japperformanceparts.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I have a couple of breakers on eBay checking against my supplied pictures for door cards, the cheapest so far is 2 door cards £50 inc delivery. Most breakers don't want to split up a full interior hence why it's more difficult than just a phone call. I gotta figure out a design as I'm pretty sure I will use the door cards just as covers, & bolt both sets of speakers into the doors. First step, get the amp in, & maybe sort out the battery box. Take measurements for the Perspex again as well, but that's another £30 that can wait until everything else is done & I can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Fair enough, i'm thinking a door with a ding in it might still have a decent card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 If it was an Integra or a Impreza or other fast Jap they would probably be the best place to go, but with a later model diesel Accord an eBay breaker would be a more likely bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yeah i suppose your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 But of a delay to the amplifier swap, due to me being pedantic, I needed to order some RCA "Y" leads to split the front soundstage into 4 channels (will give me loads more room for system tweaking/adjustment later). Should be back on one day next week & hopefully will have some spare door cards by then to modify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Have you located some cards then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Yes I have, it was a bit of a hunt as most breakers don't want to split an interior, or some had minor damage, but £50 posted in the end so not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Result then..... At last 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 New speaker cable ordered for the front soundstage. I need the cable for the other speakers to be tonally the same, and I will need to run new cables from the amplifier, into the doors, then from the crossovers to the drivers themselves. I need to buy over as I am not going to add bits or splice with the existing stuff, the cable is best bought in 1 complete length, then you cut off at exactly the point you need without wasting any, or coming up slightly short. As the cable I previously installed has gone up markedly in price, I have decided to shop around for the best stuff I can get for the same sort of price that around 12-14m of the existing stuff would cost me. Without putting home HQ Hi-Fi cable in, I have kept with a car Hi-Fi brand I already know & trust, & have used before in my install. It's pretty chunky stuff, but it will ensure very little power is wasted along it's run of 4+m, and will ensure once these upgrades are done, I will be totally happy & no longer be burdening my flexible friend with any further debt. The picture at the bottom is the kind of thing I am after, smart but still stealthy. KnuKonceptz Kord Speaker Wire Ultra Flex Blue OFC 12 Gauge Core Material: 36 Gauge Bare Oxygen Free Copper - 294 Strands x 2 Dielectric: Ultra Flex PVCA: 9mm B: 4.5mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I have to ask how do you know all this stuff?..... I mean it's all high tech stuff that commits a lot of money if you get it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Watching & learning over many years mate, plus doing a lot of research online with car audio forums. Watching people's mistakes or successes & soaking it up like a sponge, it becomes fairly obvious of the correct approach. The Door builds will be a first for me, but it will take my install to the best it can be (within reason), & be good enough that even a hyper critical bugger like myself is finally satisfied. My system is the 5th or 6th I have had in my cars over the years, & each time it has got bigger, more complicated/costly, but ultimately better. Not only in the audio output, but also in the quality & safety of the installation. I remember at 18years old taking out the dashboard lights in my Ford Cortina whilst installing a Matsui tape/radio (& pioneer coaxials in the front doors). It had to be Matsui tape/radio at that point as ALL the main manufacturers had moved onto a standardised single DIN head unit, where my cortina dash only had a small cut out in the metal dash with two spindle holes for the volume & tuning etc. A beginners mistake, but hey you live & learn. Another mistake in that car was the door speaker installation. Firstly the window winder pressed against the speaker grill slightly on every revolution (remember wind up windows?), and also the cut out on the drivers side speaker I made slightly too large, & if I slammed my door fairly hard the speaker would pop out into my lap. I really had no idea . Like I say, live & learn. Old skool car radio fitment My next car (Subaru) had a similar radio aperture, but luckily it was made of plastic & easily accessible, so my first single DIN Head Unit was installed, along with better fitting front door speakers (Pioneer's coaxials again), with Tri-Axial rear shelf speakers as well this time. A slight disappointment with the Honda will always be that when there is a muppet in his Saxo blaring away at the lights with his windows open, my install doesn't blow his doors off, but then I sit in my nicely sound deadened cocoon, & know in comparison he gets a 1/10 for sound quality & mine is probably near a 9.... It's only after people get in, hear my install & I unleash the beast that the look of astonishment appears on my victims faces It might take a month or two to finish off, but I've come so very far, a little bit longer to dot the "i"'s & cross the "t"'s will be well worth it. An added bonus should be a fully healed foot in about 2 months if things keep on progressing the way they are, & I can finally be medically allowed to go for a walk again. The next year or so will be a tough road back to any semblance of normal fitness, but along with much needed dietary improvements, changes for the better are on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The fact you haven't rushed it like Mr Saxo is a credit because perfection isn't measured in volume when it comes to ICE more like maintaining perfection during volume which i for one can say you have..... Boy you have The foot has been a learning curve for me since as said i thought meningitis was a young persons nemesis and affected the brain..... I think you have been lucky given the dire attack made on you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwozza Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Luckily I don't keep my brains in my head, (somewhere more obvious to those that know my sense of humour) but as I'm naturally "gifted" they were at the same level as my foot, but lucky for me the meningitis can't tell the difference between a foot & a long gentleman sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Men dont have brains in their head.. WtF are you playing at Tony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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