boost mad Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Obviously the weight in the will effect the geometery, so, when having the car setup what should be in there. the driver fuel? how much ? anything else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Some cars, mostly german, have specific requirements regarding ballast, some, such as Mx5, go off ride-height. Personally, and I don't know if Tony will agree, I always feel it's only ever going to be a best guess regarding what weight the vehicle is carrying at any given time. Having said that, I've toyed with the idea of putting in ballast on the driver's seat when measuring my own car., if only to see how it responds. There's no required ballast for a Mondeo but I'd empty the boot of clutter 'n' what not, and minimum 1/2 tank of fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Depends on the cars intentions and how adjustable the chassis is. On the Mondeo only the front/ rear toe is adjustable so all i need to know is where the positions migrate during the suspensions bump/ droop. I can simply do this by pulling the suspension down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Depends on the cars intentions and how adjustable the chassis is. On the Mondeo only the front/ rear toe is adjustable so all i need to know is where the positions migrate during the suspensions bump/ droop. I can simply do this by pulling the suspension down. So what about mine with the adjustable camber kit, does that make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Depends on the cars intentions and how adjustable the chassis is. On the Mondeo only the front/ rear toe is adjustable so all i need to know is where the positions migrate during the suspensions bump/ droop. I can simply do this by pulling the suspension down. So what about mine with the adjustable camber kit, does that make a difference? No not really because the struts are virtually upright, in truth the drivers weight effects the chassis diagonally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boost mad Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 my boot is normaly always empty anyway. just thought i would ask as it just poppped into my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 my boot is normaly always empty anyway. just thought i would ask as it just poppped into my head It was an intelligent question.... Last week i calibrated an owners toolbox that was inadvertently left in the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boost mad Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 wahoooo, ive never been called intelligent before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I had a jeep (can't recall what exactly, X5 maybe ?) with 3 rolls of carpet in the back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 wahoooo, ive never been called intelligent before Welcome to wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I had a jeep (can't recall what exactly, X5 maybe ?) with 3 rolls of carpet in the back.... Fail..... unless it had self leveling suspension in which case you may have got away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 oh I took it out before hand. Only because we did tyres and we had gone into the boot beforehand. Probably wouldn't have even looked otherwise, TBH. Actually, now you mention self leveling suspension, I think it was a Rangie Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 oh I took it out before hand. Only because we did tyres and we had gone into the boot beforehand. Probably wouldn't have even looked otherwise, TBH. Actually, now you mention self leveling suspension, I think it was a Rangie Sport Result..... Don't forget to set the suspension to urban and if you have to lift the vehicle open the rear hatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Asking the customer to bring along the owners manual is a good idea too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Asking the customer to bring along the owners manual is a good idea too Doesn't the machine prompt you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 No I mean generally. I didn't know they did Lexus Jeeps with self levelling suspension untill I flicked through a manual, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 If it's air sus then it's a fair bet there self-leveling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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