CIH Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Click the image to see the link; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Link don't go mate?........ Any of these books refer to modern car chassis?.... I tend to find the information very old school in most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 How much!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Link don't go mate?........ Any of these books refer to modern car chassis?.... I tend to find the information very old school in most of them. Links seem fine to me ? Don't know about the specific content. I tried to find one in Waterstone's as I was thinking the same thing but they didn't have any. A couple are new/yet to be published so I'm confident they should be current. I've bought a cheap book off ebay and that's probably mid-80s. How much!!! Uh huh, especially as I've been unable to find one to flick through, rather than rely on the sypnasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 'think I've narrowed it down to these two; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Both look good... Price is a mortgage though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Both look good... Price is a mortgage though? I thought computer books were expensive, the most I've spent on one is £35 but those are really steep! I suppose the complex subject is to blame...do they contain anything you couldn't find here or elsewhere online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 They are a wealth of knowledge in my opinion but very old school and it makes you wonder where to apply this knowledge wim-web holds sufficient information to comfort most but the latest inclusions in vehicle suspension and handling needs daily tutoring because the advances are so explosive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted October 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I don't think they're so expensive. You should see the price of computer software for 3d graphics like Max. Even for a student licence you're talking £300 plus whatever cost of college courses (shot term courses were like £250 a few years ago). There are ways of "finding" the software and making the varification "go away" ofcourse....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacenut Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I baulk at the cost of such publications mainly because I don't want them to tell me I designed my chassis wrong in the first place! What do you mean by "old school" Tony? I assume that live axle and leaf springs have been left behind some time ago, is it just down to modern multi-link systems that introduce steer effects, or modern chassis construction that reduces deflection? Unfortunately my suspension library contains only two books - "How to make your car handle" by Fred Puhn (which dates back to the late 70's) and Allan Staniforth's "Race and Rally Car Sourcebook", of 1980's vintage. Neither told me about Ackermann geometry or scrub radius... I often wonder if some of these books are merely post-graduate theses with a snazzy cover. They certainly aren't written with the lay-person in mind... Lauren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 'think I've narrowed it down to these two; I'm feeling a bit flash as I recieved our back-dated pay-rise this month so ordered the second one pictured above. Not sure about the first as it read a bit "designy", if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 'think I've narrowed it down to these two; I'm feeling a bit flash as I recieved our back-dated pay-rise this month so ordered the second one pictured above. Not sure about the first as it read a bit "designy", if you know what I mean. Designers we're not.... but i'm sure there will be some interesting chapters in there, remember it's probably old school references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Yeah we'll see. Fairly sure it's either a repint or a second (or similar) edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 It arrived today and I had a quick flick through. Will let you peeps know what I make of it as/when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 How goes the book....... any tips you can offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I would say it's probably about 4 years out of date, it discusses the implementing of Run-Flat tyres as a possability, rather than an actual fact, for eample. There's alot of math about coefficents and things but my school memories are far too rusty to understand/remember any of that. I'll try and brush up on that though. There are lots of, what I think are greek, symbols employed that I don't recognise. It does have some interesting information about the various different suspension designs, pros and cons etc. Also stuff I hadn't thought about, like friction in a dampner, especially McPherson strut where it's set at an angle to ie; not vertical. Touches a little on aerodynamics, like "cenre of pressure". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 To much toward the design area or do you think some chassis theory will be involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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