Janey Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Right, let me start from the very begining Approx 4/5 mths ago I has a set of Spax PSX adjustable shocks & springs fitted to my Roadster Shortly afterward the rear passenger side started squeeking (at first I thought it was the air filter rubbing on the hood ) but it was the suspension Then on Friday I started to get a clonking from what sounded like the drivers side rear So yesterday after it being suggested that the squeek was probably the bushes dried out, I lubed everything up, took her out for a drive and.....squeek still there, clonk still there. Next I enlisted the help of Barrie, who took a closer look and discovered that the passenger side top mount had 2 nuts on it So off came the 2nd nut and hey presto squeeking gone But...clonking still there.....so.......off came the shock (I passed Barrie the tools ) only to discover loads of play on the top mount (mmmm now we figure why the 2nd nut may have been there ) We compressed the springs to enable the nut to be tightened and no matter what we did it didn't seem to want to budge so springs were decompressed again and the top seemed a little better (no major movement) Took her out for another drive.....the clonking is now worse than it was before Question is............please, please, please, what the heck do I need to do now ? and is there anyone out there who can help/advise Big thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 it seems the top mounted nut is either not done up enough or needs a spacer under it problem is that the central rod just spins ! i only have access to the normal home users tools and am presuming it will need an air tool of some kind unless anyone knows otherwise i think this is known as the nagknockstical theory it knocks so she nags !! i never even fitted the things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discount tyres dan Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 have you tried gripping the shaft with a pair of mole grips? but if you do this make sure you put something rubber there first to avoid scratching the shaft as this can damage any seals the shaft passes through. if the knock is still there check the drop-links for play.. they are for ever going on any make of car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 have you tried gripping the shaft with a pair of mole grips? but if you do this make sure you put something rubber there first to avoid scratching the shaft as this can damage any seals the shaft passes through. if the knock is still there check the drop-links for play.. they are for ever going on any make of car. i was a bit worried about doing that , in case i did any damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 it seems the top mounted nut is either not done up enough or needs a spacer under it problem is that the central rod just spins ! i only have access to the normal home users tools and am presuming it will need an air tool of some kind unless anyone knows otherwise i think this is known as the nagknockstical theory it knocks so she nags !! i never even fitted the things How does the exposed threads compare to the other side? Does the top of the shaft own a hexagonal head or a female hex? Is the lock not a thread lock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 it seems the top mounted nut is either not done up enough or needs a spacer under it problem is that the central rod just spins ! i only have access to the normal home users tools and am presuming it will need an air tool of some kind unless anyone knows otherwise i think this is known as the nagknockstical theory it knocks so she nags !! i never even fitted the things How does the exposed threads compare to the other side? Does the top of the shaft own a hexagonal head or a female hex? Is the lock not a thread lock? shock in question has about 6 threads showing opposite has about 10 showing is a threaded rod with a flat bit about a 1/3 of full diameter nut is just a nut with spring washer underneath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 it seems the top mounted nut is either not done up enough or needs a spacer under it problem is that the central rod just spins ! i only have access to the normal home users tools and am presuming it will need an air tool of some kind unless anyone knows otherwise i think this is known as the nagknockstical theory it knocks so she nags !! i never even fitted the things How does the exposed threads compare to the other side? Does the top of the shaft own a hexagonal head or a female hex? Is the lock not a thread lock? shock in question has about 6 threads showing opposite has about 10 showing is a threaded rod with a flat bit about a 1/3 of full diameter nut is just a nut with spring washer underneath Then i think you need a spacer/washer with a bigger internal diameter to compress the mount fully and pull the shaft to the expected length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 it seems the top mounted nut is either not done up enough or needs a spacer under it problem is that the central rod just spins ! i only have access to the normal home users tools and am presuming it will need an air tool of some kind unless anyone knows otherwise i think this is known as the nagknockstical theory it knocks so she nags !! i never even fitted the things How does the exposed threads compare to the other side? Does the top of the shaft own a hexagonal head or a female hex? Is the lock not a thread lock? shock in question has about 6 threads showing opposite has about 10 showing is a threaded rod with a flat bit about a 1/3 of full diameter nut is just a nut with spring washer underneath Then i think you need a spacer/washer with a bigger internal diameter to compress the mount fully and pull the shaft to the expected length. erm yep that was my thought problem is how to get the nut off and obviously back on after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 it seems the top mounted nut is either not done up enough or needs a spacer under it problem is that the central rod just spins ! i only have access to the normal home users tools and am presuming it will need an air tool of some kind unless anyone knows otherwise i think this is known as the nagknockstical theory it knocks so she nags !! i never even fitted the things How does the exposed threads compare to the other side? Does the top of the shaft own a hexagonal head or a female hex? Is the lock not a thread lock? shock in question has about 6 threads showing opposite has about 10 showing is a threaded rod with a flat bit about a 1/3 of full diameter nut is just a nut with spring washer underneath Then i think you need a spacer/washer with a bigger internal diameter to compress the mount fully and pull the shaft to the expected length. erm yep that was my thought problem is how to get the nut off and obviously back on after Try and load the coil spring by adding weight in the boot (remove the un-sprung weight) then i would pinch the top of the shaft with mole-grips and hopefully remove the nut.... For the on (no laughing) add some Fairy liquid to the shaft it doe's wonders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 it seems the top mounted nut is either not done up enough or needs a spacer under it problem is that the central rod just spins ! i only have access to the normal home users tools and am presuming it will need an air tool of some kind unless anyone knows otherwise i think this is known as the nagknockstical theory it knocks so she nags !! i never even fitted the things How does the exposed threads compare to the other side? Does the top of the shaft own a hexagonal head or a female hex? Is the lock not a thread lock? shock in question has about 6 threads showing opposite has about 10 showing is a threaded rod with a flat bit about a 1/3 of full diameter nut is just a nut with spring washer underneath Then i think you need a spacer/washer with a bigger internal diameter to compress the mount fully and pull the shaft to the expected length. erm yep that was my thought problem is how to get the nut off and obviously back on after Try and load the coil spring by adding weight in the boot (remove the un-sprung weight) then i would pinch the top of the shaft with mole-grips and hopefully remove the nut.... For the on (no laughing) add some Fairy liquid to the shaft it doe's wonders now tony i think you have forgotten that this is an mx5 boot space allows only a socket and one hand in at a time i can get it out without to much difficulty the nut is within a cup sort of thing, the only tool to fit is a socket, which obviously then covers any part of the shaft the solution is clear how the hell the solution is carried out is not clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 the solution is clear how the hell the solution is carried out is not clear Air tools are the only solution.... repetitive pulses from an air gun will remove/re-fit the nut with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 the solution is clear how the hell the solution is carried out is not clear Air tools are the only solution.... repetitive pulses from an air gun will remove/re-fit the nut with ease. are you giving me permission to buy some air tools and a compressor yahoo ok a trip to a local garage then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 the solution is clear how the hell the solution is carried out is not clear Air tools are the only solution.... repetitive pulses from an air gun will remove/re-fit the nut with ease. are you giving me permission to buy some air tools and a compressor yahoo ok a trip to a local garage then janny said if bazza asks say yes..... a kind of subliminal gift mate ..... Is it your Birthday anytime now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 the solution is clear how the hell the solution is carried out is not clear Air tools are the only solution.... repetitive pulses from an air gun will remove/re-fit the nut with ease. are you giving me permission to buy some air tools and a compressor yahoo ok a trip to a local garage then janny said if bazza asks say yes..... a kind of subliminal gift mate ..... Is it your Birthday anytime now not mine ....but guess whos is next month i wont tell you how old but its the only number that is in alphabetical order (should have put that up in the conundrums) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 34? . Also, i got a little compressor from homebase, it is a stanley one designed for hobby use, so is only 6L but has a 2hp motor, not sure if that is enough for a blast on an air gun, but you can get a nail gun . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janey Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 34? Haha I wish Mark Looks like I'm getting some air tools for my big birthday And there was I wishing for a turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discount tyres dan Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 i know the number but im not going to tell anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 i know the number but im not going to tell anyone If you do, you know were that Birthday Turbo will go don't you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I recall the saying, your only as old as the one you feel. I think thats right. Maybe that should go in the motto thread . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janey Posted May 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I recall the saying, your only as old as the one you feel. I think thats right. Maybe that should go in the motto thread . Ohh no Mark ....that would make me 7 months old than I am Anyway...back on subject we are going to take off the shocks & springs, run them to the garage opposite work & see if they can do up the nuts properly and go from there (whilst crossing fingers & toes that it will sort the problem ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 I recall the saying, your only as old as the one you feel. I think thats right. Maybe that should go in the motto thread . Ohh no Mark ....that would make me 7 months old than I am Anyway...back on subject we are going to take off the shocks & springs, run them to the garage opposite work & see if they can do up the nuts properly and go from there (whilst crossing fingers & toes that it will sort the problem ) Bump How have things gone?..... Genuinely interested was the solution as simple as expected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I recall the saying, your only as old as the one you feel. I think thats right. Maybe that should go in the motto thread . Ohh no Mark ....that would make me 7 months old than I am Anyway...back on subject we are going to take off the shocks & springs, run them to the garage opposite work & see if they can do up the nuts properly and go from there (whilst crossing fingers & toes that it will sort the problem ) Bump How have things gone?..... Genuinely interested was the solution as simple as expected? took the day off to sort out problematic cars long list of things to do didnt qite get round to the item at the bottom of the list .....the mx5 oh well another week in the punto wont hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I recall the saying, your only as old as the one you feel. I think thats right. Maybe that should go in the motto thread . Ohh no Mark ....that would make me 7 months old than I am Anyway...back on subject we are going to take off the shocks & springs, run them to the garage opposite work & see if they can do up the nuts properly and go from there (whilst crossing fingers & toes that it will sort the problem ) Bump How have things gone?..... Genuinely interested was the solution as simple as expected? took the day off to sort out problematic cars long list of things to do didnt qite get round to the item at the bottom of the list .....the mx5 oh well another week in the punto wont hurt Punto!........ Explain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 I recall the saying, your only as old as the one you feel. I think thats right. Maybe that should go in the motto thread . Ohh no Mark ....that would make me 7 months old than I am Anyway...back on subject we are going to take off the shocks & springs, run them to the garage opposite work & see if they can do up the nuts properly and go from there (whilst crossing fingers & toes that it will sort the problem ) Bump How have things gone?..... Genuinely interested was the solution as simple as expected? took the day off to sort out problematic cars long list of things to do didnt qite get round to the item at the bottom of the list .....the mx5 oh well another week in the punto wont hurt Punto!........ Explain! errr.........fiat punto when janey has been a bad girl she gets demoted to driving the punto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star a Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 an easy way to remove a nut from a spinning shaft (this will only work if there is enough thread and if the nut is not seized, otherwise you'll risk damaging the remaining thread) is to screw on 2 nuts, lock them together, loosen the offending nut, unlock the locked nuts, tada.......only works with a spanner on the lowermost nut though, obviously... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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