Tony Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Work in progress..... Is it possible to put a jack under the ball socket end? So compressing the joint rather than loading it, It you use a pry bar or splitter the load also goes onto the nut whereas if you compress the joint the nuts not under load. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Work in progress..... Is it possible to put a jack under the ball socket end? So compressing the joint rather than loading it, It you use a pry bar or splitter the load also goes onto the nut whereas if you compress the joint the nuts not under load. . I did exactly that for the passenger side, it popped off after a few taps on the impact wrench, the drivers side just wouldn't do it at all, I tried all sorts of ways. I'm ready though for round 2. A good chap on the forums has sent me 2 replacement nuts, so worst case I'll just split it as a last resort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Do you have any heat at hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Do you have any heat at hand? Not a great device but just a typical blow torch, however I didn't want to damage the rubber boot on the thing. I'm sure I'll get it sorted on Saturday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I used to heat the nut while spraying water around the boot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Are you booked in with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Interesting, long weekend working away... So the rear nut that stopped play last week, ultimately popped off after a couple of short bursts with the jack under the thing - exactly what I initially did last week The rear is sorted. Then I did the passenger side compression arm, no problem pressing out the old, and in with the new. Then onto the driver side, no problem pressing out the old - but the new... er it just fell through the hole I thought er, ok I'll just pop the arms back on the car anyway, and see what happens: Good. Bad So a new arm is on the way, hopefully by tuesday, and I can press the bushing in this time. I measured the monoball bushing, it's around 60.4mm (roughly) And the hole in the arm from a post on another forum is around 59.4mm. I wonder if it got distorted or damaged previously when someone else pressed the polybushing into it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I don't think it's damaged, more a manufacturing issue and a bad one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I don't think it's damaged, more a manufacturing issue and a bad one at that. Yep, it's very odd. I originally had the standard rubber bushing there, and about a year ago I had some Superpro poly bushings popped in, so it may have been damaged from that...however, I suspect it's a defect like you said as well. Ah well, hopefully it'll arrive tomorrow and I can pop the new one in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I think if the Superpro poly was a loose fit the arm would have worn oval.... Just seems to me the bore is to big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 The new arm just arrived, so fingers and bits crossed that this one works properly !I'll get photo's and whatnot later tonight when I drive back.Nearly there, haha - and yep I forgot to say I'm booked in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Are they genuine arms or the ones off ebay ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 ebay, I've not had any issues like this before. So, I ordered a driver ® side... I swear I'm not making this up..... I'm glad looked just before leaving, so I didn't just have a wasted journey from London to Surrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Nothing i can other than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Nothing i can other than The Right one has just turned up. So I'll head back tonight and fit it, hopefully the hole is ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 In that case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 99% sorted I've just got to crawl under it and torque up one nut as it was clunky last night with weight transfer (was driving carefully back into town at 2am).I should have brought the old arm with me but it looked like it was slightly elongated in the hole, either way it's for the bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Long time coming but yay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Those cheap chinese arms often have that issue , we have some in stock we ordered to try but they are so poor we cant fit them to a customers car in good faith , you get what you pay for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Those cheap chinese arms often have that issue , we have some in stock we ordered to try but they are so poor we cant fit them to a customers car in good faith , you get what you pay for Sometimes this is certainly true, and sometimes it's not. Bare with me here. I've seen some big changes in their manufacturing (copying) in just the last two years where before it certainly was junk, and now it's as good as X. However I guess from your point of view if you have customers, you can ALWAYS rely on original or company X to deliver a quality component rather than taking a calculated risk (I understand that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Sell cheap or fake opens a world of warranty work and diminished trust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Sell cheap or fake opens a world of warranty work and diminished trust. Thats the thing you dont know the grade of alloy they used or the technique used to manufacture it , some chinese parts are fine but there isnt one factory churning them out there are dozens , some good and some bad , you have no idea what you are getting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Cheap and fake is even a problem for the aircraft industry were it's thought about 1/3 of the service parts are bot OEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I made a proper tit of myself - I flipping forgot to install the little black cone thing in the middle by the old arm which was causing the nut to spin... Joe was really helpful and understood (that I'm a plum), sorted out a quick temp fix until I got back home to sort it, thankfully no torn rubber boot on the new arm. Take 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Been done many times before so i wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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