dhill Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hi there I've been advised to post the following results here by someone on another forum that we both frequent. I've just had 4 new Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 fitted to my 2004 Ford Mondeo Ghia-X TDCI Estate which is running on the 18" ST220 wheels. But the after results have me somewhat puzzled, and have left me wondering if I should take the car back to them and ask them to redo the allignment. I realise that the results show that changes made and brought the car back into manufacturer tollerances, albeit the Left Front Caster is still out and the same as before and all they have actually changed is the front and rear toe. Should the results be the same for both sides of the car, ie should the camber on the rear wheels be the same and should the camber on the front wheels be the same? Surely the idea of having a 4 wheel alignment check and adjustment on a system such as the Hunter HawkEye is to get things as close to manufacturer settings as possible and not just within tolerance. After all, what am I paying £69.99 for? So basically, should I take the car back to the garage and get them to redo it properly or am I worrying about nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Looks good to me mate. The mondeo only has adjustable front and rear toe so measuring the other angles is more for diagnosis purposes to check everything is ok. The values won't be the same on each side so don't worry about that. The castor is only slightly out but not enough to worry about it IMO. Things like worn springs, shocks and bent suspension components can cause dramatic changes in the camber and castor angles. Tony will give his verdict on it but I think he will agree with me, hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhill Posted January 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Thanks for the input E55EX RACER, much appreciated. I've not changed any of the suspension components,, other than two new springs on the front. I did hit a very large pot hole on the passanger side towards the end of last year, and that knackered the front and rear passanger side wheels....hence why I'm running on the 18" ST220 alloys, as they were the cheapest and quickest way to get me back on the road at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89mustang Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think I would have had a go at moving the front subframe, to increase caster, but not a major issue. Caster is a bit lower than I would have expected but it is quite even, which I feel is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks for the input E55EX RACER, much appreciated. I've not changed any of the suspension components,, other than two new springs on the front. I did hit a very large pot hole on the passanger side towards the end of last year, and that knackered the front and rear passanger side wheels....hence why I'm running on the 18" ST220 alloys, as they were the cheapest and quickest way to get me back on the road at the time. It could be possible that some damage was done to the shock or knuckle when hitting the pot hole. Caster is the angle from the top suspension mount to the lower ball joint and determines how far forward or backwards the wheel is sitting. Photo below shows what I mean. A slight bend in the shock, for example where it goes into the knuckle could be the cause. How does the car handle now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 They did a good job on the adjustable angles... Symmetry in an ideal world is what we desire but if the chassis is not fully adjustable then this isn't possible.. Point to note is the fuel load will have an affect on the castor positions but since Ford don't inform us on the amount of fuel needed for the geometry the gain/ loss in the castor numbers is a matter for experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhill Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks for the input E55EX RACER, much appreciated. I've not changed any of the suspension components,, other than two new springs on the front. I did hit a very large pot hole on the passanger side towards the end of last year, and that knackered the front and rear passanger side wheels....hence why I'm running on the 18" ST220 alloys, as they were the cheapest and quickest way to get me back on the road at the time. How does the car handle now? I can't say that I've noticed much difference yet if I'm honest, but I'm still taking in easy on the new tyres so haven't pushed the car at all yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhill Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks for the feedback Tony, very much appreciated. With both E55EX RACER's and Tony input, I feel much happier and confident in the work that has been done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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