TDi Dyno meet

[lee_iceman]

We just finished another LOC members car recently. It's a shame it wasn't ready for the LOC meet because it would have been the best over all on the day. This shows the power and torque with and without the Camcon ativated.

 

 

 

So this is just with the Stage 1 and the camcon fitted

[lee_iceman]

Got the video editted quickly will do a better copy when I get more time

 

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[Fargo]

We just finished another LOC members car recently. It's a shame it wasn't ready for the LOC meet because it would have been the best over all on the day. This shows the power and torque with and without the Camcon ativated.

 

 

OMG would you look at that Mark, youve gone and posted up a dyno chart, i do hope you had permission from the owner :)

 

 

 

that is really tempting, I am just very concerned about my engine being able to handle it

 

Yes, that is a valid concern but the very first stage 1 upgrade we did was on a standard engine. That was done years ago and is still going strong as faw as I know

 

If i were considering the stage 1 my question would be "is this ok for the standard engine or not?"

Unfortunately the answer isn't that simple.

 

We have not seen any engine reliability issues with engines fitted with the stage 1 pulley upgrade, but we know of broken connecting rods on engines with less power.

 

The only supercharged engine that we have actually seen that had broken rods, had the standard boost pressure but was seriously abused (to the degree that is unlikely to ever happen again). I have heard of other engines with broken rods but do not know the circumstances.

 

Personally, I would take some comfort knowing that no stage 1 engines that have been professionally tuned have not had any reliability issues over the years, so would go for it

 

Wasnt Kieron's a stage 1 s/c'd jobby..

[yemgi]

Mark, there is something I am not sure to understand. Are the figures at the wheels or at the hubs? It makes a sensible difference on mine if it is at the wheels and the wheel size has been modifed accordingly to my setting

[TDIPLC]

Mark, there is something I am not sure to understand. Are the figures at the wheels or at the hubs? It makes a sensible difference on mine if it is at the wheels and the wheel size has been modifed accordingly to my setting

It's measured at the hubs Yemgi. A rolling road measures at the point of tyre contact.

[TDIPLC]

We just finished another LOC members car recently. It's a shame it wasn't ready for the LOC meet because it would have been the best over all on the day. This shows the power and torque with and without the Camcon ativated.

 

 

OMG would you look at that Mark, youve gone and posted up a dyno chart, i do hope you had permission from the owner ;)

There were no confindentiality sensitivities with this client Paul.

 

 

that is really tempting, I am just very concerned about my engine being able to handle it

 

Yes, that is a valid concern but the very first stage 1 upgrade we did was on a standard engine. That was done years ago and is still going strong as faw as I know

 

If i were considering the stage 1 my question would be "is this ok for the standard engine or not?"

Unfortunately the answer isn't that simple.

 

We have not seen any engine reliability issues with engines fitted with the stage 1 pulley upgrade, but we know of broken connecting rods on engines with less power.

 

The only supercharged engine that we have actually seen that had broken rods, had the standard boost pressure but was seriously abused (to the degree that is unlikely to ever happen again). I have heard of other engines with broken rods but do not know the circumstances.

 

Personally, I would take some comfort knowing that no stage 1 engines that have been professionally tuned have not had any reliability issues over the years, so would go for it

 

Wasnt Kieron's a stage 1 s/c'd jobby..

That was the first one we ever did a few years ago.

[Fargo]

There were no confindentiality sensitivities with this client Paul.

 

lol i was only jesting mr Catchpole

 

 

 

We have not seen any engine reliability issues with engines fitted with the stage 1 pulley upgrade,

 

Personally, I would take some comfort knowing that no stage 1 engines that have been professionally tuned have not had any reliability issues over the years, so would go for it

 

 

Wasnt Kieron's a stage 1 s/c'd jobby..

 

That was the first one we ever did a few years ago.

 

Didnt that have serious heat issues, even a few fires.

[TDIPLC]

Didnt that have serious heat issues, even a few fires.

 

No Paul, it didn't have any serious heat issues or a few fires, that I know of anyway, but then we haven't seen the car for a couple of years or so.

 

I know of one small engine bay fire that was caused by the failure of a standard component.

 

I don't believe this has any association with the integrity of the standard connecting rods

[lee_iceman]

I know of one small engine bay fire that was caused by the failure of a standard component.

Not meaning to cause alarm, but what standard part was this? Should we all be wary of it. Surely this can happen to anyone of us.

[Fargo]

thought the issue was engine reliability with stage 1 upgrade and that you know of no stage 1 engines that have been professionally tuned that have had any reliability issues over the years.

 

I named one that you had fitted and that has had issues, namely serious heat generation such that it caught fire.. and that was straight from the horse mouth, no heresay (or herasy lol) and was certainly a couple of years ago at the time of your instalation so is not something you had not heard of before cause you even agreed recompense for future labour..again from the horses nouth.

 

Anyways, i dont want to bog down this thread in bashing Tdi, not my intention, just wanted to point out the above issues, as yemgi clearly has concerns about such an upgrade.. so i'll shut up now.

[TDIPLC]

thought the issue was engine reliability with stage 1 upgrade and that you know of no stage 1 engines that have been professionally tuned that have had any reliability issues over the years.

 

I named one that you had fitted and that has had issues, namely serious heat generation such that it caught fire.. and that was straight from the horse mouth, no heresay (or herasy lol) and was certainly a couple of years ago at the time of your instalation so is not something you had not heard of before cause you even agreed recompense for future labour..again from the horses nouth.

 

Anyways, i dont want to bog down this thread in bashing Tdi, not my intention, just wanted to point out the above issues, as yemgi clearly has concerns about such an upgrade.. so i'll shut up now.

The question was regarding the issues of engine reliability when a stage 1 boost upgrade is fitted to a supercharged Lexus is200. I reiterate that we do not know of any engine reliability issues.

 

The car that you named did not have any engine reliabilty issues. It experienced a small fire due to the failure of a standard external component totally unrelated to the stage 1 pulley kit. Do you understand the difference now?

 

We did indeed repair the car at a reduced cost to our client. This was a sympathetic consideration that we have done for quite a few pew people that have suffered unfortunate circumstances. Some of our clients take comfort in the knowledge that TDI is sufficiently well established to be able to undertake sympathetic measures when needed.

[lee_iceman]

The car that you named did not have any engine reliabilty issues. It experienced a small fire due to the failure of a standard external component totally unrelated to the stage 1 pulley kit

 

Hello,

I'm a little worried about this statement

What standard part failed and caught fire, what are the chances of this happening to someone else. Think this needs to be made public and everyone aware of it, after speaking with a tech guy at Lexus he has never heard of a standard part catching fire. Think Lexus GB need to be informed incase this turns into a real problem.

 

Cheers

Lee.

[TDIPLC]

The car that you named did not have any engine reliabilty issues. It experienced a small fire due to the failure of a standard external component totally unrelated to the stage 1 pulley kit

 

Hello,

I'm a little worried about this statement

What standard part failed and caught fire, what are the chances of this happening to someone else. Think this needs to be made public and everyone aware of it, after speaking with a tech guy at Lexus he has never heard of a standard part catching fire. Think Lexus GB need to be informed incase this turns into a real problem.

 

Cheers

Lee.

 

I haven't heard of any others catching fire either Lee, plus the car in question was totally unique so I wouldn't worry about it.

[merchantbanker]

I looked here

 

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-reca...exus/index.html

 

no mention of any IS200 recalls

 

I'm worried as well.

 

Think I may go to my local lexus dealer on Saturday and get the car checked over.

 

I've printed this thread off so they will not think I'm a lunatic.

 

Could Tdi-Plc say what part caught fire as this is what I'll get checked first please ?

[TDIPLC]

I looked here

 

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-reca...exus/index.html

 

no mention of any IS200 recalls

 

I'm worried as well.

 

Think I may go to my local lexus dealer on Saturday and get the car checked over.

 

I've printed this thread off so they will not think I'm a lunatic.

 

Could Tdi-Plc say what part caught fire as this is what I'll get checked first please ?

As I mentioned above, the car was totally unique so I wouldn't worry about it.

[merchantbanker]

I looked here

 

<a href="http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-reca...exus/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-reca...exus/index.html</a>

 

no mention of any IS200 recalls

 

I'm worried as well.

 

Think I may go to my local lexus dealer on Saturday and get the car checked over.

 

I've printed this thread off so they will not think I'm a lunatic.

 

Could Tdi-Plc say what part caught fire as this is what I'll get checked first please ?

As I mentioned above, the car was totally unique so I wouldn't worry about it.

 

Sorry but I'm still worried unless what happened was something done during the modification caused the part to fail then the fire. Of course if thats the case then I agree I've not got anything to worry about.

 

Could you confirm this ?

 

Sorry to go on but I've a 2 year old child and am worried sick something may happen when my wife is using the car...doesnt bear thinking about.

[TDIPLC]

I looked here

 

<a href="http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-reca...exus/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-reca...exus/index.html</a>

 

no mention of any IS200 recalls

 

I'm worried as well.

 

Think I may go to my local lexus dealer on Saturday and get the car checked over.

 

I've printed this thread off so they will not think I'm a lunatic.

 

Could Tdi-Plc say what part caught fire as this is what I'll get checked first please ?

As I mentioned above, the car was totally unique so I wouldn't worry about it.

 

Sorry but I'm still worried unless what happened was something done during the modification caused the part to fail then the fire. Of course if thats the case then I agree I've not got anything to worry about.

 

Could you confirm this ?

 

Sorry to go on but I've a 2 year old child and am worried sick something may happen when my wife is using the car...doesnt bear thinking about.

That is understandable. I have young children myself.

 

I would not like to be resonsible for your decision so if you want to put your mind at rest you may be better off having your car professionally inspected.

[lee_iceman]

I think this is quite a serious situation now, you know of some sort of fault that affects a Lexus IS200, a standard part that isn't touched by your modifications and it hasn't been reported to Lexus.

tbh mate I think your putting all out lives in danger by not letting anyone know about it. Ok, so it was probably only a little fire that was put out straight away by one of your team, but what if it happens to someone out in the middle of nowhere?

The least that should be done, is it's reported to Leuxs GB asap so they can investigate.

[TDIPLC]

I think this is quite a serious situation now, you know of some sort of fault that affects a Lexus IS200, a standard part that isn't touched by your modifications and it hasn't been reported to Lexus.

tbh mate I think your putting all out lives in danger by not letting anyone know about it. Ok, so it was probably only a little fire that was put out straight away by one of your team, but what if it happens to someone out in the middle of nowhere?

The least that should be done, is it's reported to Leuxs GB asap so they can investigate.

 

If I had any concerns Lee, I'm sure people would know about it by now.

 

If you do have any concerns I suggest you have your car inspected. Better safe than sorry.

[lee_iceman]

I think this is quite a serious situation now, you know of some sort of fault that affects a Lexus IS200, a standard part that isn't touched by your modifications and it hasn't been reported to Lexus.

tbh mate I think your putting all out lives in danger by not letting anyone know about it. Ok, so it was probably only a little fire that was put out straight away by one of your team, but what if it happens to someone out in the middle of nowhere?

The least that should be done, is it's reported to Leuxs GB asap so they can investigate.

 

If I had any concerns Lee, I'm sure people would know about it by now.

 

If you do have any concerns I suggest you have your car inspected. Better safe than sorry.

I really can't see why your so relaxed about it though. A customers car that was in your workshop had a standard part spontaneously combust and nothing has been done. Did TDi do there own investigation on the problem, or was it a known side effect of the modifications you were doing?

[TDIPLC]

I think this is quite a serious situation now, you know of some sort of fault that affects a Lexus IS200, a standard part that isn't touched by your modifications and it hasn't been reported to Lexus.

tbh mate I think your putting all out lives in danger by not letting anyone know about it. Ok, so it was probably only a little fire that was put out straight away by one of your team, but what if it happens to someone out in the middle of nowhere?

The least that should be done, is it's reported to Leuxs GB asap so they can investigate.

 

If I had any concerns Lee, I'm sure people would know about it by now.

 

If you do have any concerns I suggest you have your car inspected. Better safe than sorry.

I really can't see why your so relaxed about it though. A customers car that was in your workshop had a standard part spontaneously combust and nothing has been done. Did TDi do there own investigation on the problem, or was it a known side effect of the modifications you were doing?

I'm sorry but you have been misled. The car didn't sponateously combust, not was it in our work shop.

 

I would only be concerned about it if someone else had a car that was exactly the same, which I don't believe anyone else has.

 

We have our opinions on the cause, and do not feel the need to share them as there is no impact or concern for anyone else.

[lee_iceman]

I think this is quite a serious situation now, you know of some sort of fault that affects a Lexus IS200, a standard part that isn't touched by your modifications and it hasn't been reported to Lexus.

tbh mate I think your putting all out lives in danger by not letting anyone know about it. Ok, so it was probably only a little fire that was put out straight away by one of your team, but what if it happens to someone out in the middle of nowhere?

The least that should be done, is it's reported to Leuxs GB asap so they can investigate.

 

If I had any concerns Lee, I'm sure people would know about it by now.

 

If you do have any concerns I suggest you have your car inspected. Better safe than sorry.

I really can't see why your so relaxed about it though. A customers car that was in your workshop had a standard part spontaneously combust and nothing has been done. Did TDi do there own investigation on the problem, or was it a known side effect of the modifications you were doing?

I'm sorry but you have been misled. The car didn't sponateously combust, not was it in our work shop.

 

I would only be concerned about it if someone else had a car that was exactly the same, which I don't believe anyone else has.

 

We have our opinions on the cause, and do not feel the need to share them as there is no impact or concern for anyone else.

Phew, thats alright then, I was getting worried then. Glad there is nothing to be concerned with and it was something to do with the modifications.

Cheers again.

[TDIPLC]

I think this is quite a serious situation now, you know of some sort of fault that affects a Lexus IS200, a standard part that isn't touched by your modifications and it hasn't been reported to Lexus.

tbh mate I think your putting all out lives in danger by not letting anyone know about it. Ok, so it was probably only a little fire that was put out straight away by one of your team, but what if it happens to someone out in the middle of nowhere?

The least that should be done, is it's reported to Leuxs GB asap so they can investigate.

 

If I had any concerns Lee, I'm sure people would know about it by now.

 

If you do have any concerns I suggest you have your car inspected. Better safe than sorry.

I really can't see why your so relaxed about it though. A customers car that was in your workshop had a standard part spontaneously combust and nothing has been done. Did TDi do there own investigation on the problem, or was it a known side effect of the modifications you were doing?

I'm sorry but you have been misled. The car didn't sponateously combust, not was it in our work shop.

 

I would only be concerned about it if someone else had a car that was exactly the same, which I don't believe anyone else has.

 

We have our opinions on the cause, and do not feel the need to share them as there is no impact or concern for anyone else.

Phew, thats alright then, I was getting worried then. Glad there is nothing to be concerned with and it was something to do with the modifications.

Cheers again.

It's never good to jump to conclusions, but I'm glad you're happy now

[lee_iceman]

I think this is quite a serious situation now, you know of some sort of fault that affects a Lexus IS200, a standard part that isn't touched by your modifications and it hasn't been reported to Lexus.

tbh mate I think your putting all out lives in danger by not letting anyone know about it. Ok, so it was probably only a little fire that was put out straight away by one of your team, but what if it happens to someone out in the middle of nowhere?

The least that should be done, is it's reported to Leuxs GB asap so they can investigate.

 

If I had any concerns Lee, I'm sure people would know about it by now.

 

If you do have any concerns I suggest you have your car inspected. Better safe than sorry.

I really can't see why your so relaxed about it though. A customers car that was in your workshop had a standard part spontaneously combust and nothing has been done. Did TDi do there own investigation on the problem, or was it a known side effect of the modifications you were doing?

I'm sorry but you have been misled. The car didn't sponateously combust, not was it in our work shop.

 

I would only be concerned about it if someone else had a car that was exactly the same, which I don't believe anyone else has.

 

We have our opinions on the cause, and do not feel the need to share them as there is no impact or concern for anyone else.

Phew, thats alright then, I was getting worried then. Glad there is nothing to be concerned with and it was something to do with the modifications.

Cheers again.

It's never good to jump to conclusions, but I'm glad you're happy now

Well it must have been to do with mods right, because from you say above this wouldn't happen on a standard car, can't see how thats jumping to conclusions, its just logical.

 

Just out of interest, what part was it so I can check it over before I drive anywhere at the weekend.

[Tony]

Lee whatever it was must have been a one-off..... If not owners saying "my car caught fire" would be splashed all over LOC.