parthiban Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Just over a week ago my car developed an odd sound, it's sort of like a whiney rumble coming from the front end, 60mph is when it's most noticeable, and is at its loudest when going round a left hand bend at 60. Any ideas what it could be? Suggestions of tyres or bearings were made at the Ace Meet, but as my bearings were only replaced recently does that mean it's the tyres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 "Heel and Toe" wear makes a noise like a bearing, run your hand around the inner tread and see if it feels like a 50p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 "Heel and Toe" wear makes a noise like a bearing, run your hand around the inner tread and see if it feels like a 50p Tyre looks and feels fine to my untrained eyes/hands.......... Another thing I've noticed is that under reasonably hard braking the car is pulling to the left a bit - could that be related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 In view of the noise and pull i would pay attention to the front tie-rod bushings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 In view of the noise and pull i would pay attention to the front tie-rod bushings. Do you think if I bring the car along you'll be able to come out in the car to hear the noise and feel the pull? Or will it not be necessary to actually road test? Either way I think another trip to WIM is on the cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 We just need to go over everything until we find the criminal..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 We just need to go over everything until we find the criminal..... Thanks, I'm guessing weekdays will be better than weekends for investigative work due to being less busy? I'll check my calendar and get back to you soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Did a little investigating today based on a similar thread on LOC and interested to know what's normal and what's not. Jacked the car up at the front and gave both wheels a bit of a spin. If I gently turned each wheel, I was getting a squeak sound, and as I spun them faster there was a clear scraping sound. Is that just the sound of the pad against the disc and is it normal for them to be in contact? Second thing, I grabbed the wheels and tried to shake them to see if there was any play - with the passenger side wheel there was definite movement from top to bottom, what problem does that potentially point to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Have someone put their foot on the brake, if the play goes away then it's the bearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 My car's in at Lexus having some other work done so asked them to take a look at this too and apparently my left front bearing has collapsed! They aren't particularly happy about me taking the car as is so I can't bring it back to WIM - how could this have happened after replacing them only a few months ago? Looks like another pricey bill, just over £300 to replace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phipck Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 its your car and can do what you want with it......but agreed, it wouldnt be a great idea driving like that. depending on a mountain of variables the two that come to mind are, overtightening (i dont know the bearing details so this may not be possible) or inferior manufacturing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 its your car and can do what you want with it......but agreed, it wouldnt be a great idea driving like that. depending on a mountain of variables the two that come to mind are, overtightening (i dont know the bearing details so this may not be possible) or inferior manufacturing Yep they did say I can take it away but recommended if I did to take it straight to where I want to have it repaired and not use it for a few days and then sort it - and given the distance to WIM they definitely weren't happy (obviously it's my car and my responsibility but assume there must be some duty of care issues if the car isn't necessarily fully roadworthy) To be fair I've been driving around on it for a while now assuming it wasn't too serious but now that I know what it is I'd rather just get them to sort it. As it was a genuine Lexus part they've said it should be covered under warranty but as it was fitted at WIM they can't cover the labour so there'll still be a substantial bill to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 they have such a poor attitude, it's an OEM part, a pressed bearing cannot be incorrectly fitted because the fit is surgical, a tapered bearing is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 they have such a poor attitude, it's an OEM part, a pressed bearing cannot be incorrectly fitted because the fit is surgical, a tapered bearing is another story. They aren't blaming incorrect fitment - they think it must have been a faulty part to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Isn't it narrow minded to agree the part is faulty and still charge you labour, they can still charge Lexus UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 I suppose it is a bit but I can see their side too - honouring warranty claims for work done by someone else would open them up for a world of pain when it cannot be proven what the actual cause of failure is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Dealers...... On the plus side at least you know what's wrong now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Dealers...... On the plus side at least you know what's wrong now. Yep, fingers crossed now I can have trouble free motoring for a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Need to see that geo again anytime soon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Need to see that geo again anytime soon though. Yep once this is all sorted out I'll be in touch as I need new rear tyres and a geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Need to see that geo again anytime soon though. Yep once this is all sorted out I'll be in touch as I need new rear tyres and a geo Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Is it all done and ok now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Is it all done and ok now Not yet, replacement part arrived with them but they've been busy so haven't got round to it yet, said I should be able to collect tomorrow. No big hardship, have a '10' plate IS250 to play around in at the mo so not really complaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted November 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Just had a call from the dealer to say my car's ready, after some fiddling with the numbers the bill is going to be £165 so a lot better than the initial quote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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