adam_r Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hello all. im hoping some one can share some light on my issue. lets start with the car. Its a 54 plate Honda accord saloon, with the 2.2 i-cdti engine in. it has factory wheels which are 17" and i have recently put some vredestien (sp) ultrac sessantas on. the wheels at 17" and are 7jj the tyres are 225/45/17 of course it needed a full setup once these new tyres where fitted so i got a local garage with a new hunter system to set the car up for me.... the following print out i received from them afterwards now my issue is... it feels like the car 'tramlines' in a straight line... the easiest way to describe is when im driving along and im driving straight its fine but if i turn either right or left it seems to require a little more effort to turn the wheel ... once the wheels have turned its quite normal, then on returning the steeling to the center, that last few degrees to get it straight seems like your require a little more effort to bring it back in line. (kind of like driving in grooves in the road) the car steers straight feels ok, but somethings not quite right. also on an aggressive turn the wheels seem to just break away without too much notice which could just be down to the tyre itself. any help or am i being a ninny ? thanks Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 also as another spanner in the works and not wanting to start ANOTHER thread.... can some one shed some light on how my old rear tyres ended up like this : the above pic was of the OFR wheel with my breaker bar laying on top to show the odd wear (left side of the tyre was on the inside).. the exact same this happpened on the NSR wheel too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Rear camber positions would explain the wear, the castor positions are low but they would have been before, have you checked the pressures before we move deeper in to theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Rear camber positions would explain the wear, the castor positions are low but they would have been before, have you checked the pressures before we move deeper in to theory. pressure is always kept at 32 psi. maybe 34 if im doing a long run. rear camber is a known issue with the 7th gen accords, adjustable arms are out there but cost £150. it will be something i will consider in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Rear camber positions would explain the wear, the castor positions are low but they would have been before, have you checked the pressures before we move deeper in to theory. pressure is always kept at 32 psi. maybe 34 if im doing a long run. rear camber is a known issue with the 7th gen accords, adjustable arms are out there but cost £150. it will be something i will consider in the future. I've seen EZ cams advertized to correct the rear camber> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 interesting, but looks very different from my camber arms. the accord has double wishbone suspension all round by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 I'll research this tomorrow..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 cheers Tony. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Tony. did a bit of digging on the accord forum and found a member who has got adjustable camber arms on the rear to sort this issue.. so i guess i will need to do this to sort the rear tyre wear... but still not sure on the steering 'feel' on the way to work this morning i was playing with the car, and it seems like: first few degrees of steering turn doesnt feel very responsive, then a little more turn and it suddenly turns in quite aggressively. i would almost say its like i have silly amounts of front negative front camber, so as soon as the steering is turned it wants to carry on going... kinda like: /----\ (straight) |----\ (turn right) /----| (turn left) then its like struggling to get back to the /---\ like your having to fight againt the camber on both wheels to straighten the wheels. again, i may be getting this very wrong. i just know something doesnt feel right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Their the baby's........ Just noticed, are the front cambers positive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Their the baby's........ Just noticed, are the front cambers positive? not really, spec sheet at the top says camber amount on left and right wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Not to keen on the OSF @ 32' positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Not to keen on the OSF @ 32' positive. is that the only thing wrong you can see with it ? if it is i will return to the garage and ask them to bring it back in towards 0' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Not to keen on the OSF @ 32' positive. is that the only thing wrong you can see with it ? if it is i will return to the garage and ask them to bring it back in towards 0' Well no the backs still wrong.... Front cambers not adjustable although you can get kits for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Not to keen on the OSF @ 32' positive. is that the only thing wrong you can see with it ? if it is i will return to the garage and ask them to bring it back in towards 0' Well no the backs still wrong.... Front cambers not adjustable although you can get kits for it. i didnt realise the front wasnt adjustable either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazz33 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 How long have the new tyres been on (miles wise ) maybe they need bedding in a bit.? might explain the strange feeling.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_r Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 How long have the new tyres been on (miles wise ) maybe they need bedding in a bit.? might explain the strange feeling.? i would say about 1500 - 2000 miles now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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