Tony Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Mat posted an excellent example of tyre wear on his Drift car.... So i have stolen the image to ask you this question.... During the transition of weight transfer with the car Drifting the direction of traction is longitudinally lateral in a descending arc as the Drift dissipates so..... Knowing this how can you tell from the patten of wear displayed the Geometry positions could be improved upon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 So drift cars do run lots of -ve rear camber?! I wonder how many sets of rears to fronts they get through.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 fronts last along time, as the wheels are generally, travelling in the same direction of the car. personally i think its better to run less -ve camber on the rear to prevent the condition above, unfortunatly i cant recover much more camber at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 fronts last along time, as the wheels are generally, travelling in the same direction of the car. personally i think its better to run less -ve camber on the rear to prevent the condition above, unfortunately i cant recover much more camber at the moment Nail and head comes to mind mat..... the wear ever extreme has to band to narrow.. camber is digging the car in as i am sure you are well aware... team wim Analise the area of wear, then consider how the car would react if the camber were reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 fronts last along time, as the wheels are generally, travelling in the same direction of the car. personally i think its better to run less -ve camber on the rear to prevent the condition above, unfortunately i cant recover much more camber at the moment team wim Analise the area of wear, then consider how the car would react if the camber were reduced. Keep thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 fronts last along time, as the wheels are generally, travelling in the same direction of the car. personally i think its better to run less -ve camber on the rear to prevent the condition above, unfortunately i cant recover much more camber at the moment team wim Analise the area of wear, then consider how the car would react if the camber were reduced. Keep thinking! Have you 'Thunked' enougth yet...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 fronts last along time, as the wheels are generally, travelling in the same direction of the car. personally i think its better to run less -ve camber on the rear to prevent the condition above, unfortunately i cant recover much more camber at the moment team wim Analise the area of wear, then consider how the car would react if the camber were reduced. Keep thinking! Have you 'Thunked' enough yet...... 'Loose' ....... It would become less planted at the rear, reducing the camber related wear, but if carefully manipulated still retain the grip required to generate/maintain the Drift........ As little as +30' off the rear camber could drastically add to the continuation by reducing camber conical then lateral drag, and still not interfere with the power application for Drift evolution..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janey Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 'Loose' ....... It would become less planted at the rear, reducing the camber related wear, but if carefully manipulated still retain the grip required to generate/maintain the Drift........ As little as +30' off the rear camber could drastically add to the continuation by reducing camber conical then lateral drag, and still not interfere with the power application for Drift evolution..... mmmm interesting I think I maybe starting to understand this geometry stuff Will be interesting to put your theory into practice Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 'Loose' ....... It would become less planted at the rear, reducing the camber related wear, but if carefully manipulated still retain the grip required to generate/maintain the Drift........ As little as +30' off the rear camber could drastically add to the continuation by reducing camber conical then lateral drag, and still not interfere with the power application for Drift evolution..... mmmm interesting I think I maybe starting to understand this geometry stuff Will be interesting to put your theory into practice Tony Oh yes Theory means nothing unless proven..... like the IS200 problem. In addition the driver may well like the current positions for whatever reason, at the end of the day the 'driver' decides the best set-up, then we manufacture his desires (fine-tuning) Something i once read about theory was, 'Anyone can read a book on how to fly a plane, but how many passengers would get on the first flight' .......Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janey Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Oh yes Theory means nothing unless proven..... like the IS200 problem. In addition the driver may well like the current positions for whatever reason, at the end of the day the 'driver' decides the best set-up, then we manufacture his desires (fine-tuning) Something i once read about theory was, 'Anyone can read a book on how to fly a plane, but how many passengers would get on the first flight' .......Interesting Good point.... Want a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Oh yes Theory means nothing unless proven..... like the IS200 problem. In addition the driver may well like the current positions for whatever reason, at the end of the day the 'driver' decides the best set-up, then we manufacture his desires (fine-tuning) Something i once read about theory was, 'Anyone can read a book on how to fly a plane, but how many passengers would get on the first flight' .......Interesting Good point.... Want a How aerodynamic are they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janey Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Oh yes Theory means nothing unless proven..... like the IS200 problem. In addition the driver may well like the current positions for whatever reason, at the end of the day the 'driver' decides the best set-up, then we manufacture his desires (fine-tuning) Something i once read about theory was, 'Anyone can read a book on how to fly a plane, but how many passengers would get on the first flight' .......Interesting Good point.... Want a How aerodynamic are they Pretty good, small head bigger botty.....although the only trouble I have found is the annoying squeaking when they go through the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Oh yes Theory means nothing unless proven..... like the IS200 problem. In addition the driver may well like the current positions for whatever reason, at the end of the day the 'driver' decides the best set-up, then we manufacture his desires (fine-tuning) Something i once read about theory was, 'Anyone can read a book on how to fly a plane, but how many passengers would get on the first flight' .......Interesting Good point.... Want a How aerodynamic are they Pretty good, small head bigger botty.....although the only trouble I have found is the annoying squeaking when they go through the air Got one today.... thought i would give it a try.... seemingly he knew of me? Pets they don't know their born nowadays.......airborne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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