Tony

Absolute opposite..... Measured ............................................Stock REAR Camber : 1 degree 25' per side...........1 degree 25' Toe : 6mm+ per side............................1.5mm+ per side FRONT Camber : 3 degrees - per side...........50'- per side Castor : 1 degree 40'+ per side.........2 degrees 45'+ per side Toe : 7mm- per side..........................(.25mm)+ per side The set-up i designed to over-steer and orbit the rear around the front initializing the drift...jon you experienced this effect on your track day, implying how solid the front is but the rear was very nervous. Interesting to me is how violent the front camber/ toe is... and how conservative the rear camber is.... Seemingly the owner still wanted a reasonably tight rear camber... i will maths the set-up and forward a conclusion.

Did the mechanic beat the driver up when he found out?....... all that work for a bottle! Had it been a Coke bottle he probably would, by as Irn Bru is a well known cure for "a bad head" he let him off Bless...... then beat him up seems wiser

'Set-up by the Doctor' ...... i have seen this in a few places.... nice idea Bazza!

Hi Ya .... are the wheels standard or aftermarket?.... whatever make sure! you receive a print out from the Dealership.... with that we can do wonders.

For the clubs wim caps the initial Geometry to between £65 and £95.... the fine-tunes are free.... any concerns on the fine-tunes resulting in further tests are free..... reads pretty good so far.... For the clubs tyre prices are below on-line purchase prices and include a 30day insurance that covers accidental or malicious loss, with a free like for like replacement.... still reads pretty good. Just to compare... A full Geometry on the IS200 non club member.. assuming all seven angles are incorrect would cost £148+vat... LOC Discount takes the cost down to £95 member £65 Gold member. This satellite club structure will stop.... not good reading. The 'Buy and Sell' section will endorse areas that cannot be found in other clubs... Membership will save the member money immediately depending on the needs....... saying that though LOC is very close to my heart so maybe the club will own 'special membership'...... A gift LOC gave me cannot be forgotten!

Tomorrow i have an MR2 SW20 with a Geometry previously set by someone else specifically for drifting.... the new owner wants the positions recovered to stock, but at least i will be able to view another company's opinion for drift positions...... i will keep everyone up-dated

Did the mechanic beat the driver up when he found out?....... all that work for a bottle!

Sorted him out on LOC tony What was the verdict?

ummm... yes..spose so bloody good image though don't you think! Yep...there's nothing wrong with it Pete i cannot be rememberd as the kicker people would get the wrong impression

ummm... yes..spose so bloody good image though don't you think!

Crunchie what? bar Ever distracted...... wine or bistro

Well this is my favorite It just opens the complexities within.

Words and forums don't translate ......what the hay...... lets smoooth on

Believe me i knew your intentions were honorable but the wim forum is open to all and some may not understand the educated warning you displayed... i do and most here from LOC will but the general viewer may not, hence the explanation so that the new viewer can feel comfortable.

Crunchie what?

I see your point..... an image displaying wim... difficult... i confess maybe you could help me here!

jiberjaber although we welcome comparisons with other forums you must understand wim does not compare nor operate in the same manner, so cannot be tarnished with the same brush. I will overlap your 1,2,3 here though.... 1:Supplier wants to advertise to a target audience. Well yes if not why become visible as a trader. 2:The site would benefit financially. Indeed it would. wim is the first of it's type in the world, constantly we open new doors and find even more expanse to fill.... Truth is it costs money....my money! Unless Gran dies tomorrow i will need finance to continue evolving wim in the expanse. 3:Approval. Authorized traders are of the highest pedigree. Buy and sell is subject to Policing, fortunately we have authority here with much experience that will set an immediate standard All of your concerns are welcomed and noted... The 'bad trader' is worrying but not free to exploit here undetected.

If you offer the wheel to the hub.. see if there is any movement up and down?... The wheel should be a clinical fit over the hub, dismissing any off-set during the tightening process... if the wheel does move once offered to the hub you will indeed need spigot rings.

I'm not overly sure on what you need ... pm Scarface he will give you all the necercery information.

My guess would be the top mount. Reason is the activation left and right involves diagonal shear from the cars parallelogram... more prominent probably on a right lock. If the mount is loose it may knock by transmitting compression to the upper body housing. I would say good guess Tony. I get that as well. Some "3 in 1" around the top mount from the inside does the trick Hay i was trained by the Master ....... before you i was the master of coilover disaster.

Oh dear sorry for the loss... if i can help with the replacement give me a chance with price... the F/T is a must.. as you know time and time again i have warned LOC.... and it's free.... give me the size and make and i will help as much as possible!

Yes, but smaller if possible... I idealy wanted say a LOC and a WIM one for a couple of forums, may as well advertise good causes so I would need them to stay within the following: So using the url and img tags to get a clicky link and picture for both LOC and WIM would be great I truly admire your help here as an ambassador.... please don't stop... as for the coding i will need to ask the master 'Scarface' a little more help please!

Worrying don't you think!.... it's only the trusted centres that offer a fine-tune and our independent findings show the same results.... what's really pants about this that now wim has forced the public and the shops to be Geometry aware, wim now has to educate another level...

Tell them all.... The Doctor only works from this surgery now...(mostly) if they need a prescription here is were it happens