Paul XE

You've never heard of Marcos?? Where have you been man?!!!!!!! lol

Again, the figures will have to wait until I get the hubs back from Hi-spec. I may not even have time to recheck the geo before the track day but after that I plan to do a FULL geo check and post the figures up on here. For the track day I will prob run the same geo as before (camber 2 deg, caster 4 deg, KPI 13 deg, 0 toe on the front) and have a play with the rear to see if I can contol it a little more, then if I achieve that I can go back to the front and try and reduce the KPI and bumpsteer, and increase Ackerman angle.

That looks like a very neat and tidy conversion, well packed in there though. Bet it could be a handful though!

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Wow!! This thread is getting busy now! Checking bumpsteer is not a problem, as I made a gauge up to measure it. If anyone would like to make one for themselves, let me know and I can show you how very easily and cheaply. Also, before discovering this site and forum my knowledge of geo only spanned camber, caster, SAI and toe. I'm learning, but very slowly! I do find this subject very interesting and have a passion to learn more and try and make the car handle the best I can.

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OK, will do. May take a week or so though as the car is on axle stands with the hubs off as they are away at Hi-spec having the brakes made. HMS: I value everyone's opinion, as its very easy for me to overlook the obvious sometimes! (Cant see the wood for the trees lol!) Not only that, I would like to think that people may find this thread interesting and learn from it, like I'm doing!

OK, that makes sense. Also, I have failed to mention that the steering arms fitted are from a Metro which are longer and angled in more giving more ackerman. Here they are compared to a mini one: I will have to re-measure ackerman to find out what it is as my memory fails me. If its not close to 2 deg 30' at 20 deg, I could possibly heat them and bend them in to obtain those figures.

Not ignorant all all, it's my poor method of explanation. As i see thing well have a very ( declined ) SAI that's not easy to correct, the castor is a done deal as is the camber. The scrub radius is in the wrong place and you have spacers fitted for mechanical reasons.... Oh and bump steer. My thoughts was to allow the migration of the camber during a turn to be accelerated, this will improve the SR keeping it under the steer axis. Ok, I think we have gone past the limits on my knowledge on the subject! I will try and read up to try and make sense of what you just said, but if you could tell me how you plan to do that I will try and make it work mechanically.

I'm sorry, and I may sound ignorant, but that made no sense to me at all!! What are you thinking of doing?

Apparently he has had 4 going all at once before. I saw him do 3 when I was up at the Autosport show.

There are bends in them both ways, down and in. These are older pics when I still used a track rod end, steering arms are the same though.

Yes I can do. I am using 1/2" UNF rose joints instead of track rod ends to try and reduce bump steer.

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I understand... Students just get in the way anyway. I'm up for this Paul, it will be an enlightening meet bringing our vision of the "geometry" to the four front. Not only that, we would not expect you to put up with students who may not appreciate your knowledge, where as we will and then pass that knowledge onto them. This will not be happening until the summer when we get a few weeks without students (around July/Aug time) Thanks again Tony