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Not everyone is as passionate as you regarding the wear..... I also find the cheaper the tyre, the less concerned members are?

 

I'm just a Lancastrian tightarse that doesn't like parting with money sooner than necessary

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Personally i think the toe positions are wrong and need to be revised by Nissan.

 

Probably so, especially as I'm aware that there were a number of similar issues with the Micra that was blamed on tyres at the time. (Didn't find this out until after I discovered the Notes problems)

 

If you join one of the clubs and ask members if they also have this issue a collective "yes" will force your argument.

 

I have subscribed to a number of online Nissan sites and to be fair am totally underwhelmed by the lack of responses

 

Looks like I'll just have to put up with what we've been dealt and just make sure I never ever buy another Nissan ever again.

 

Good job I have my MX5 to vent my frustration on

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Hi Tony

 

thanks for your earlier assistance. I am still having a bit of a nightmare with Nissan Customer (dis)service and eventually turned to What Car magazine for help. I sent them the details of the alignment above and they have replied with the following

 

Our technical guys have looked at the measurements supplied and have said the vehicle is actually within Nissan specification.

The combined rear toe specification for a Nissan NOTE is 5mm – 13mm, as stated in the service manual.

 

The figures given are confusing as they are in Degrees minutes not mm but once the combined rear toe of 0 degrees 46 minutes is converted to mm the result is approximately 5.3mm

 

The tecnical guys are obviously stating the alignment is actually within tolerances after they convert the readings to mm. This then questions the fact that the correct readings have been used in the Hunter in the first place or is it the case that when the original settings of 5mm is converted it actually converts differently from mm to degrees and then back again (does that make sense?).

 

Again your help is much appreciated

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The toe error is small but consistent with your complaint. Here are my thoughts.

 

1: If only one wheel was displaced then you could be held accountable by hitting a curb/pothole....

2: If one wheel was positive and the other negative (displaced beam) then you again could be accountable.

3: Since both wheels are incorrect in the same direction (positive) then i would hold Nissan accountable by manufacturing error.

4: If the toe were adjustable i would adjust it to the OEM positions then monitor the tyre wear, if wear appears then i would generate custom settings for the toe. I feel 19' each side is to deep for a fixed beam.

5: The toe can be corrected by fitting aftermarket correction shims, but it's not cheap.

 

To add grounds for your complaint i would join the Nissan/Note owners club and ask members if they also have issues.

 

Thanks for that Tony much appreciated.

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The wear pattern and the measured data from Drury don't correlate.... I will pull the data from the Hunter tomorrow and post back.

 

Final alignment settings. I'd just got in from work when I posted and couldn't find them. Thanks for looking Tony Obviously my error as the toe angles are positive not negative like I posted.

 

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I am in need of some urgent assistance and advice please and have almost run out of options. My wife is a driving instructor and 12 months ago bought a Nissan Note 1.5tdci. 19000 miles later the front tyres were worn to about 2.5mm and changed. At the same time I also paid a bit more attention than usual to the wear on the rear tyres. At this point it was evident there was a problem. The rear nearside tyre had worn to approx 2.5mm on its outer edge and only 4.5mm on its inner edge. The offside tyre was worn to approx 3.5mm on its outer edge and 5.5mm on its inner edge. I presented the car to my local dealer where the service manager instantly gave his opinion that there was nothing untoward and it was nothing to worry about After a protracted conversation I left the garage in Sheffield and personally arranged a full 4 wheel alignment check at Drury Lane in Oldham. The results show that the toe in figures are out of the manufacturers settings. The manufacturers tolerances are 0 degrees to -19'. The actual readings are rear n/s -23' rear o/s -24'. Unfortunately the axle is fixed and there is no adjustment on the rear toe.

 

So it is now back to Nissan dealership and the same service manager deems that the settings are so close to the tolerances that it is of no consequence but as a favour to me he will contact Nissan Technical. Nissan technical have now replied to the effect that they have no issues with the rear settings of the E11 (Note) axle and there is no further action. It does appear that the service manager may have neglected to inform Nissan of the alignment readings but Nissan will not accept the readings from me

 

I have changed one of the rear tyres (but retained the casing myself) a Continental econtact 3 but am wanting advice on the best way forward as I appear to have reached a dead end.

 

Before I start any further action I need to know whether the current readings are so substantially wrong that I should demand that they be corrected. I also need to know the best way to go about taking this matter forward in order to reach a satisfactory conclusion.

 

I do have the option of taking the car to another dealer for a second opinion but need to be on absolutely solid ground before I present my case to them so that I can "fight my corner" if they attempt to try and pull the wool over my eyes.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance