[Alignment....the big con]

from what i see the Toe out and camber at front would contribute to the inner tyre wear, thing is with these things..the reading is only as good as the setup involved....they also didn't seem to meaure the caster? It also seems they didn't bother setting the right rear toe to centre spec either....(really annoys me when people have the equipment and don't even set things properly! to what's specified). This means that the thrust angle is off (ideally should be close to 0)..basically means you have rear axle steer.....is your steering straight? I'm also seeing -1*43' for right rear camber..is this a typo?? (Is there no rear camber adjustment for the IS?)

 

I'm not quite sure what to think really.....by not adjusting the rear toe properly basically your front alignment numbers even if they are all green are inaccurate.............

 

Anyway it would have been a good excercise to see if they could verify the readings by letting you drive off then on again to see if they have truely set it....

 

 

For all you giggling behind your cushions, there are no typos here.. spelling aint good but figures are as the computer print out....Ouch! I take it?

 

Yes, come on Tony keep your foot high on the 'derrier' of those workmen, some peeps out here need you! Book me in.... Hey tell you what,, the day got worse...

 

I parked in Albion Street, outstayed my welcome by 3 miniutes, I got there as the witch in black was levitating over my car and pleading, begging, tears and lost child never helped, then ching, ching... £50 parking fine.... Gawd, Captain beam me up to a better world!

[Alignment....the big con]

Yep, saw me coming... What suprises me is that if this is known in the industry, why do they want to con us Lexus owners and not try to fix the problem???

 

So... I went in to HiQ today and the guy, rather larger than he sounded on the phone was very nice and offered a free wheel alignment test and 'speiled' about calibration only 2 weeks ago, put on his super tracker, (lights, mirrors and black lines), fired off a few figures to me and told me smiling that everything is fine with the tracking and maybe it is the camber, so partially truthful and helpful. I'll give the guy an 6 out of 10 as he said, "I can't do anything about it", but advised I go to another place which have the full super-duper kt, I said WIM in Chesham, he said this is in dunstable so I thought nothing ventured and I had sometime to waste.

 

So they plugged me in, all singing and dancing on computer, lots of lights and 75% in red, (now red always concerns me), the first thing they said is your wheels havent been alligned, they are out, look ???? Well ... I did.... AT WHAT!!! Give us a clue... but red is bad yeah?

 

So they agreed with each other and then said to me that the tyre wear is relevant to the readings and allignment is..... I KNOW.... I wish I read your reply before going out this morning, my whole day may have been different!

 

So to bore you all, here are my readings... hmmm, sorry.....

 

Front Axle Previous Values Final Values Data Bank Min Typical Max

Total Toe -00*46' +00*07' -00*06' +00*06' +00*18'

Partial Toe L -00*11' +00*04' -00*03' +00*03' +00*09'

Partial Toe R -00*34' +00*03' -00*03' +00*03' +00*09'

 

Camber L -00*54' -00*56' -00*51' -00*21' +00*09'

Camber R -00*34' -00*38' -00*51' -00*21' +00*09'

 

Caster L +05*16' +05*46' +06*16'

Caster R +05*16' +05*46' +06*16'

King Pin Angle L +08*24' +08*54' +09*24'

King Pin Angle R +08*24' +08*54' +09*24'

 

Out of Alignment -00*10' -00*08'

Track Diff -00*17' -00*17'

 

Rear Axle Previous Values Final Values Data Bank

 

Total Toe -00*08' +00*08' -00*00' +00*12' +00*24'

Partial Toe L -00*02' +00*03' -00*00' +00*06' +00*12'

Partial Toe R -00*11' +00*11' -00*00' +00*06' +00*12'

 

Camber L -00*35' -00*35' -00*53' -00*23' +00*07'

Camber R -00*43' -01*43' -00*53' -00*23' +00*07'

 

Thrust Angle -00*07' -00*07'

Out of Alignment -00*22' -00*21'

 

Now, I'm imagining half you guys nodding your heads, understanding these numbers, and scratching your chins knowledgably, and then there are some of you who probably think, he's paid out again hasn't he.....hmmm

 

Well, someone tell me please what to do next! point me, draw me a map, Im sure there is going to be a second edition, maybe an encore.... Cheers and I await your responses..

[Alignment....the big con]

Oh here we go.... newbie with a Lexus IS200 SE and fairly bald inside edge of my Avon ZZ3 on the front offside more than the front nearside I had these 4 brand new tyres alligned when new on the 29/9/07 and paid good money to HiQ in Dunstable only 5000 miles later looks as if the tyres need replacing, the guys at HiQ swear blind everything was done properly and that because I change lanes on the motorway by crossing the cats eyes this knackers my tracking as well as other things. After saying all this the nice guys have invited me back to have a free tracking... thanks... But, will I be any better off, will they fix it or will I be buying 2 more tyres so I can replace them again in 5000 miles...

 

Any recommendations and guidance will be most welcome! And Tony, I may be paying you a visit in Chesham, Im hearing your good????

 

Help!