Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Hi, i thought i would start a thread to keep all the pictures and updates in one place for my track car build. Ever since doing the day at Goodwood in the summer, i'm hooked And i plan to do a lot more, which will need a dedicated car for the job. Last week i purchased this car... The car is a 325i and has been used for a lot of drifting Unfortunately having now realised the shell will not be up to the task as it just isnt solid enough, i set about finding a replacement shell. The 1st car has however come with a few good bits which will be put to good use in the build, some of the other parts will be sold and some scrapped Today, the new shell arrived which i have been very kindly donated for the project. A mighty fine manual 316 This now means my original plans have been hugely changed, as you can see i have a lot of work to do. Ther car will recieve a full strip down, paint and rebuild. My plans were to install the 325i lump from the 1st car, which may well still happen. However i have a real urge to install an M52 328i. With the lengths i will be going to, to get the car how i want, i really dont want to have to be redoing tasks later down the line so some carefull planning will be needed. I know i will have a huge amount of questions along the way for you guys when it comes to getting the car handling correctly. The first huge task of stripping down the blue car will start tomorrow. I'll look forward to sharing this project with you... Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 That's gonna be great when it's all finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'm going to really enjoy this Will the car be a dedicated track car, or are you diverting to the likes of drift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Just track Tony, not interested in the drifting. I do want it to be road legal though, purely so it can be used every now and then to save it sitting there at times, and also to make it easier to get work done on it. Started gutting it today. Seats, door cards, roof lining, centre console, stereo, carpet, seat belts, loads of random bits here and there and all inside the boot. Dash will be next. Would have been quite a lot of weight out of it. Will get some pics up shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I know this is a broad question Tony, (and i'm sure you might confuse me with an answer lol ) but what would be your recommendations on getting an E30 to handle well on track? I'm trying to piece things together so i know what i need to buy for the build. It will most certainly come to you for the geometry setup, and possibly even the suspension kit. I have been looking at the GAZ kits, which i know you seem to like. The black and white car came with ebay prosport suspension. Which obviously i wont be using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Stiff suspension, uprate the roll bars, try and widen the rear track and geometric adjustability.... Out of the box all the car has is adjustable front toe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think i'm leaning towards the GAZ Gold kits, with the uprated top rear mounts, which i believe will offer a proper coilover setup on the rear of the E30? I will also use front are rear strut braces and an uprated arb kit. What could you supply the gaz kit for Tony? can pm if you prefer. And also the uprated rear top mounts if you can? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I only deal with BC Racing coilovers now, and they come with top mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Cheers Tony. Had a quick google on the BC kits, they seem to say for an E30, the kit has a separate non coilover rear spring and damper assembly. I know that is how the E30 is designed, but some kits do seem to say they will replace the rear design and offer a coilover type setup. So would the BC give you a true coilover kit on the rear? Sorry for the questions, just trying to understand this as best as i can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think the BC is a separate coil and oil which i think is fine because the load points remain within design parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 A few updated pics now the interior is stripped. This afternoon i removed the sound deadening with a heat gun, i'll be cleaning all these areas up tomorrow with some thinners to remove the left over residue. Tomorrow will also see the dash removed as it is covered in cracks. I have another which i will have flocked before refitting. I will also remove a load of parts from the engine bay tomorrow such as bottles, radiators etc to start cleaning this area up. A few areas that will need to be welded, the usual places on these And a huge pile of bits to get rid of tomorrow, i dread to think what this lot weighs, the green bag has to be dragged its that heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 2 brand new front wings also arrived on Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Few more pics with todays progress... Dash stripped out Started stripping the rear end Removed a load of parts in the engine bay and started disconnecting pipes from the old 1.6 Everything being labelled up and bagged along the way Removed all the bits to get the rear quarter glass out, but am struggling to get them out. The guides say they should be very easy, does anyone have any tips to save me from damaging them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Are they bonded in? All looking good mate, how did you remove the sound proofing from the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMARTLY Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Looks like there might be a bit of trim still on the right hand side of the picture inserted in the rubber? Bit like they have on windscreens. Does the rubber lift all the way round inside and out? Have you tried lying on your back in the car and applying pressure with both feet like they do with windscreens? Check your medical insurance first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 The sound deadening came out easily with a heat gun and scraper Tony, then just cleaned off the residue with thinners. Been busy working this w'end so not much car progress, but have recieved today a racing dynamics front strut brace which i'll have anodised, an eibach rear anti roll bar and an lsd from a 325 sport. I've also just ordered an e46 steering rack and custom kit for the pas pipes. This mod is supposed to do wonders for the e30 steering and a much quicker ratio than stock and far better feel. Have also been thinking against painting the car Audi Ibis white, and going for the Ferrari Grigio Silverstone, although thats a few months off as a lot of mechanics i want to do first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 What's the wonder with the E46 rack, lock angle? There's other ways of doing this with the OEM rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 The E30 rack is 4.1 turns lock to lock, the E46 one i have ordered is 3. The E30 is known to have very old fashioned steering, common mods are to swap out to a later 3 series system it seems. The parts really havent cost a great deal. Everyone who has done this says what a huge difference it makes to the feel of the car. Am hoping so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Looks like you're making good progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Not many updates lately, but the e46 rack arrived this week as did the custom kit to fit it. Have been reading lots about which way to go with the suspension, finding it all a bit confusing if i'm honest, so many different views on the subject. I do seem to be leaning towards the BC kit though. Will also be nice knowing you supply this Tony, as it will certainly be you setting it up lol Fairly soon i will transfer both cars to my work to get the mechanical work started, which is a fair bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phipck Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 bc has been very popular in the mr2 world, so i can only reccomend them as a worthy contender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Thats good to hear. Over in the mk4 Supra world, which i have more knowledge of, they are regarded as reasonable quality especially for the price. A few of the guys have had issues with creaking, but nothing that confirms an issue, but equally loads are very happy also. The fact it seems putting coilovers on the front of an e30 means welding them to the hubs seems strange, but thats how its done, still easily sorted though. The BC's also retain a seperate damper and spring setup at the rear, which saves strengthening the rear strut towers. Again some say no need to strengthen, some do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 What, if anything has gone wrong if their not strengthened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Touch Detailing Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Something to do with the rear strut towers not being designed to handle coilovers and overtime can damage them in some way. As i say, some people say its fine, others say they require a lot of strengthening and bracing. For peace of mind it means having the springs in the original location, like the bc's do, possibly a safer option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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