Rich

So you're saying that when a german car is set it needs to be loaded first to lets say the average amount of weight the car would normally have in it? Did that make sense! I've only used kwik fit once and that was to fit an exhaust when I was on holiday as it had snapped from the manifold! I have to admit they were helpful and did a good job but wouldn't trust them to align a car! Tony have you been to Croxley Tyres and seen the kwik fit invoice they have pinned up detailing their price breakdown for fitting a tyre? Comes to about 15quid! The loading puts the suspension in a mid point of it's active range..... more or less! The problem is that the target data is expecting this loading so without it the calibration is worthless.... My personal opinion of KF is subjective and open to liability since this club is so visible now.... Although i am free to express an opinion of other peoples experiences without litigation. I have never been to Croxley tyres but i do know the owner..... He is a really nice chap! So do you tell the owners the car needs to be loaded so it can be set correctly, what is their response to this? Yes friendly fella, maybe you could sort out a WIM discount!

I think there's a post on MEG about someone who got a bald patch and it may be down to the shocks. But then my front shocks were knackered (ask Tony!) and I didn't get any unusual tyre wear. If you're gonna change the shocks might as well lower it

Thanks ER, may be it was due to the high reflective of the dark colour. I wash it every 3 or 4 days with water. Photography is my other serious hobby. Every 3 or 4 days, wish I had the time to do that But then your weather is probably very different to ours and I bet it don't get covered in dirt/dust and all the nasty bird poo we get!!

So you're saying that when a german car is set it needs to be loaded first to lets say the average amount of weight the car would normally have in it? Did that make sense! I've only used kwik fit once and that was to fit an exhaust when I was on holiday as it had snapped from the manifold! I have to admit they were helpful and did a good job but wouldn't trust them to align a car! Tony have you been to Croxley Tyres and seen the kwik fit invoice they have pinned up detailing their price breakdown for fitting a tyre? Comes to about 15quid!

How do you keep that car so clean and shiny? Have to agree with Tango those other photos are stunning

Put them in the gallery, should automatically resize them for you

5 hours! You have the patience of a saint then! I can understand you don't like to fail, you can tell you are passionate about your job and whenever you've worked on my car you always make sure the job is done properly. You get alot of respect from me for that, I know a couple of people who like to bodge a job when it comes to cars, hence I don't ask them for help anymore! I'm assuming you are be sarcastic about German motors? Does the amount of fuel in the tank make that much difference? The number of beemers I've seen with funny rear camber is unbelievable though! Never realised there were cars that couldn't be adjusted. Be interesting to take a fiesta to kwik fit etc and ask them to sort the geometry out and see what they say!

Now we all know you have alot of experience when it comes to setting a cars geometry and I'm just curious to know which car; 1. Took you the longest to set and why? 2. Which is your favourite car to set and why? 3. Which car do hate/dislike setting and why?

Yes, that is quite unexpected. I had done a drop on my previous Mit VRM and that caused a lot of complaints from my wife for the 'hard' ride. Eventually I had to switch back to stock springs. I think Eibach must have done it right. Did you experience any further spring settlement since installation? Any geometry adjustment since then? TK Chan Yes I've noticed that as well the ride hasn't changed that much, if anything feels slightly better. A mate of mine has a Civic Tyre R and the ride on standard springs is horrible! I don't have the same car as you but I haven't noticed any difference in the height since I first put them on but then I have only done 600 miles on them. Tony did a geometry after they were fitted, the front was way out but then I had taken everything else off. The mondeo doesn't have adjustable camber so I think it was only the toe that was adjusted.

Looking very good :rolleyes_anim: Surprising how dropping it even 30mm can make all the difference. I've recently dropped mine on Eibach springs, very impressed so far

Isn't that what I've been saying! :rolleyes_anim: You don't need the www as everyone who's computer literate knows that has to go first, plus I think it looks better that way!

Well you obviously need to URL which would take quote abit of space on it's own. I personally think this would be sufficient enough as anyone who is curious will come onto the site to find out more. If you start adding anything else it could distract people from the message you're trying to get across; the URL. Unless you're planning on making them fit the whole rear window! How about this - wheels-inmotion.co.uk Or WIM YOUR WHEELS wheels-inmotion.co.uk

Why not just have the URL in bold white letters - wheels-inmotion.co.uk You don't want it cluttered as the majority will see it when the car is moving so needs to be easy on the eye...

Yeah when they are available and too be honest even the standard ones are sought after. I spent ages looking for some ST24 ones and got these in the end. Then someone put some up for sale! Was gonna put me new grooved discs on the weekend as well, not much point now can't see them through steelies!!

Well as I can't afford new wheels it's really the only alternative, just have to be extra careful now. Might get some better luck in my next life!!

God damn it the rears are ET20!!!! That's a 15mm difference Looks like someone has tried scratching the numbers off as well Confirms why I was weary about lowering it at the rear anyway and the clearance between the tyre and arch, So the rears are ET20 and the fronts are ET35 and ET27. This is the 3rd set of wheels I've had fitting problems with now and this has definiately put me off buying from ebay again unless I can see them first. Plus to top it all off one of the rear tyres has started bulging so swapped it for the spare which is a different size so gotta take it easy

Why don't they put a warning sign up!!

Same way you bought them.... True but I'm an honest guy, when I bought them I had to get one repaired as well as it was buckled slightly! Think I will have to play dumb... But what cars have wheels with a PCD 108 and ET29??

Yep Some people have a death wish!! :oneeyed01:

Well seems there's been a few changes while I've been away! Here's my opinions... I agree that Tony needs help with the cost of running the forum so I have no problem with paying a subscription fee. As said above there are only a dozen or so members who regularly post and the majority of new members just want some advice, which is why they come here for help but don't stay once they have an answer. I can't see many people wanting to pay £15 if they have no intention of regularly posting as they could most likely get the advice from other forums or even post in the unlocked sections, which I'm sure would get answered anyway as we're a friendly lot Forum wise I think both gold and platinum members should be given the same access rights. It seems abit unfair to charge for a gold membership but still restrict arcade use to 10 plays a day. If a fee has been paid then why restrict it? As for the discount I feel this is aimed more at the members who have high powered jap motors etc. My car wouldn't have/need the kind of work done that TDI supplies or what the WIM shop offers. I'm assuming it won't include work carried out at STS? I wouldn't benefit from the discount and can't justify spending that much on a subscription fee for a forum. The majority of other forums I've joined charge between £10-£15 so I think you need to offer something else to get people to join. If they get something for their money that they can actually own I think it will entice more people to join. One club I was with gave new members a welcome pack. This included a keyring, pen and URL sticker all with the club details on. Might have been cheap stuff but it was still good to receive it. I know this is more cost but even a URL sticker would give you more 'free' advertising and you can charge for additional ones. Have any of these ever been made before? If WIM is going to grow then promoting the club more will probably regenerate more attention and as it's a specialist topic to the majority of people I think it will need it...

They're compomotive. My only worry is that both the rears are actually ET29. If they are I'm definitely getting rid of them, only problem is how do you sell wheels that have different offsets!!

Is this the one you were telling me about? They were lucky that didn't go through the pipe!!

I like that... Do any of these cars get into STS ok where the dip is, looking at that I would've thought it catch somewhere? I think the first time I went there I drove in with a bang as I didn't realise and that was in a mondeo!!

That's what I don't get, you take your car in to get the problem diagnosed. Once the problem has been found and obviously they were told how damgerous it is, they just drove off and don't bother getting it fixed. How much would that have cost, no more than 80quid I would've thought...

Same patten different vehicle destinations.... Someone somewhere has!... Made a mistake. Well I still need to check the rears to see what they are, if they're both ET35 then maybe who ever had them before me damaged one and replaced it with an ET29! Or it could be an ET35 but when manufactured it was stamped up wrong, but I suppose the chances of that are slim!