parthiban Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Spotted this on the sis's mini the other day, obviously doesn't look good! She can't remember hitting anything except potholes, could that have caused so much damage? The OEM tyres are Pirelli P3000s, can't seem to find them anywhere so must be discontinued - replaced by the P1. Should I just get those or go for the Michelin Energy Saver Plus as it's rated A for wet grip rather than B for the Pirelli and is 1dB quieter. Both are roughly the same price so no real difference there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 That doesn't look too clever, is it bulging as well? I'd go with the Michelin personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yeah it doesn't look good at all, bulging quite a lot. The metal cords have snapped there and the rubber on the inner skin is bulging through the hole. Definitely a blow out risk so the car is not moving until it's changed! Cool, was leaning towards Michelin as well, generally my tyre brand of choice nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 That's impact damage where the tyre has been so compressed it hit the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 That's impact damage where the tyre has been so compressed it hit the wheel. Could a pothole have caused that level of compression? The tyre pressure was a bit low but nothing excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yes if the wheel is on any sort of lock, plus it wouldn't take much if it's under inflated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yes if the wheel is on any sort of lock, plus it wouldn't take much if it's under inflated. Thanks Tony. To be fair they're the original tyres (so 9 years old) and the car doesn't get used much so the rubber doesn't look in the best shape. Planning to just replace all four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Go with the Michelin because the P1 is really average for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Go with the Michelin because the P1 is really average for the money. Will do thanks - the few times I've used that car it seemed ridiculously easy to get lift-off oversteer on the Pirellis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Sounds about right..... Marque specific Pirrells are second to none for handling but their run of the mill all rounders only work for a select few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 That's actually quite interesting, as you hear a lot of negativity about Pirelli generally but then the P Zeros on the 360 seem to stick really well given the power going through them. Having said that a lot of other owners are now moving on to the Mich PSS with rave reviews, but I have nothing to complain about on the P Zeros - if anything it's the Bridgestones (also OEM) on the front axle that I hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Pirelli has supported Ferrari since day dot born on a successful relationship that works..... The PSS tyre is very good and sticks really well but it's a sacrificial tyre that's one up from a pencil rubber compound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I can imagine that Pirelli diverts all their resources when making a Ferrari specific tyre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Indeed but they do the same for Merc with the MO tyre and Jag with the J tyre both of which are model specific fitments only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liner33 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 9 yr old tyres ? Really , they look thoroughly knackered , cuts and scrapes and no doubt lots of UV damage , would have them on my wheel barrow personally let alone put them on a car that carried anyone I loved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super josh Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 The PSS tyre is very good and sticks really well but it's a sacrificial tyre that's one up from a pencil rubber compound. That's interesting Tony, I thought that the PSS was supposed to wear a lot better than the likes of the Toyo Proxes/Goodyear Eagle F1 etc? You would hope so considering the price of the Michelins Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 In some sizes they only have 5mm of tread from new rather than the normal 7mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Anyone used this before? http://www.kwik-fit.com/mobile-home.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Anyone used them more than once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Anyone used them more than once Lol fair point It's just that I need an ASAP solution as my sis really doesn't care and I don't have any spare time during work hours to get this sorted - according to the website they can come out and do this tomorrow which would be perfect - especially as there's no additional charge for the mobile fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 It's a shame she has that attitude about the tyres, could be a matter of life and death in that condition Are you or is she with the RAC/AA http://www.rac.co.uk/breakdown-cover/mobile-tyre-fitting https://tyres.theaa.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 It's a shame she has that attitude about the tyres, could be a matter of life and death in that condition Are you or is she with the RAC/AA http://www.rac.co.uk/breakdown-cover/mobile-tyre-fitting https://tyres.theaa.com/ That attitude isn't just restricted to tyres Yep an AA member, didn't realise they did that - with the member discount works out pretty much the same as Kwik Fit so may just go with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Just tried AA Tyres for comparison purposes. They have no fitters in any north east postcode area I tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 All booked in for Thursday with the AA, will let you know how it goes! When booking it came up as Event Tyres so clearly those are the guys who are actually doing it - they have a good reputation for mobile fitting so fingers crossed it works ok. Think it's just a limited service at the moment as its fairly new, probably rolling out more locations if it's successful. 9 yr old tyres ? Really , they look thoroughly knackered , cuts and scrapes and no doubt lots of UV damage , would have them on my wheel barrow personally let alone put them on a car that carried anyone I loved Sorry missed this earlier - the tyres were fine, they're not knackered just dirty and a bit neglected. The cuts are just around the area of the impact where the rubber has split. And if you replaced tyres everytime they got scraped against the kerb you'd be buying new tyres every week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parthiban Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Tyres were replaced yesterday, and while I wasn't there it appears to have been a very painless process. Guy turned up with a big van, left outside to just get on with it and 30-40 mins later the job was complete. Wasn't perfect though, as he didn't reset the tyre pressure monitor, but it was kind of lucky as all the tyre pressures were way off (all set to 1.7 bar instead of the required 2.3) but that's not really that different to a lot of fast fit places so I'm not overly bothered about that as I usually check it myself anyway. I personally would still take my cars to WIM but I cannot understand why anyone would go to a regular fast fit place when this sort of service is available for no additional cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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